Satans' Spawn
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- ********
I was drawn into a debate. I was accused of being in league with advertising. I couldn't dig my way out. I couldn't persuade my pursuers that there was a unique difference.
Am I a part of the Evil that is the constant, relentless barrage of marketed pieces of crap being forced upon our fellow citizens?
I feel I must sit down. I feel have been shouting at the wrongs of the world with an ignorance of the like I have been pursing.
Oh dear...
- rasko40
you're just as much a part of the system as they are, maybe they should realise just how manipulated they are before they go off ranting on people with their ideological ill-thought out hypocrisy.
- scarabin0
yes. you are part of the propaganda-pumping army of advertising.
the good part is you can choose your projects.
read some tibor kalman.
- ********0
Hmm. I guess the question is:
Can you live with it?
- zedvox0
or Barbara Kruger, Jenny Holzer's Truisms
- rasko40
wrong, the question is:
"how can you live without it?"
- ********0
if your feel bad about working in advertising, you can send me your money. I will find a more ethical use for the money you make from such clients...yes, it is evil money, and if you send it to me, i will de-evil it for you....
- ********0
So how do you convince Rasko?
I'm fairly convinced you're a real human being with some moral fibre...
- rasko40
ask them if they consider a newspaper advertising, ask them if they consider education as advertising, ask them if they consider the fact that everything in their lives is constructed solely for the perpetuation of capitalist, consumerist society.
Ask them what THEY are doing about it.
- ********0
Sorry - typo. How do you convince YOURSELF.... I meant to say.
I have little trouble rumbling them....
- rasko40
I swallow the reality with my eyes open, people would consume no matter what, look at them on the high streets at the weekend THEY LOVE IT, and they dont even no why. They wouldn't know what to do without it, PEOPLE ARE STUPID, and they are controlled like robots.
The entire fabric of our society needs to be different for anyone to be innocent and that ain't going to happen just yet.
- ********0
moreover, everything is YOU
- Ohood0
I wouldn't worry about whether or not you're satan's spawn, truth is, there are people out there that are doing way worse.
war, famine, etc. these are truely more wrong than selling stuff to people who have the freedom to choose to buy it or not.
you're doing your job, and even though some people see it as 'evil', in the grand scheme of things, it's not all that bad.
mind you, i could quite easily live without adverts in black and white advertising smelly stuff i'm never going to buy.
- Ohood0
nice stuff rasko,
i likes the tube posters.
- rasko40
thanks :)
- ********0
i'd love to have enough money to buy all advertising mediums and turn it all off for one day.
- ********0
yeah rasko - that "buy truth" thing is really cool. I'll keep an eye out for it on the northern line.
- hooked0
i've had this discussion a good many times.
my take is that the appeal of strategising and realising campaigns is, in itself amoral. A significant strata of the people currently involved in advertising would, had they been born in almost any other time in history , have spent their early professional years in the officer/knight class of the army. look a how many of the great ethical writers served for their country- fighting for an empire they had no belief in but in whose fortunes were tied.
It is totally how you draw upon the experience gleaned in this "testing ground" of your career in more experienced years, and with a more developed sense of the ethics of your occupation to do good that matters.
- ********0
if advertising didn't support negative social restrictions and stereotypes in such an obvious, intrusive way then it would, once again, be a true artform, but it is lazy, not crazy. the real mission should be, let people know, they have a choice.....
- ********0
i nearly had the ethical dilema when my company was pitching for an arms suppliers' website. It was a credentials pitch and never got round to me doing any work for it. However, I was ready to refuse to contribute... Quite what would've have happened as their sole web designer I don't know. As it turned out - we didn't win it.
