Star Trek: Discovery
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- ETM0
A little gory tonight. I expected to be able to watch with my young sons but that was getting a little much with the crushed bodies and detached limbs. It was like someone wanted to channel Doom or Dead Space with the dark corridors, bodies and that weird creature.
- Continuity0
I'm still waiting for the 'Star Trek' part of this show to kick in.
As it currently stands, I might even prefer 'Enterprise'.
- Yeah, I felt Trek a _little_ in episode 1 and 2, but this latest felt like something else entirely.ETM
- Felt like a combination of the BSG reboot (with its ambiguous morality) and the first Alien.Continuity
- Sigh. Never mind that the Klingons didn't get cloaking devices until STIII.Continuity
- ^ Oops. This belongs to i_monk's comment.Continuity
- I'm still not ruling out that this is in the Kelvin timeline. (JJ's universe).CyBrainX
- They said officially it's the prime timeline.ETM
- i_monk1
So a mushroom warp engine? This is what we're watching?
- Project Porcini™Continuity
- I thought it was going to be testing a cloaking device to match the Klingons.ETM
- dopepope0
The Orville is waaaay more Star Trek than this. I'm enjoying both shows tho. The Orville might as well be the next season of TNG.
- Yeah, I mentioned earlier how it surprised me with it's stories so far, and the comedy is not as invasive or slapstick as expected. Episode 3 was really good.ETM
- I think I'm going to have to watch this, despite the mixed reviews.Continuity
- detritus0
Watching 3 now - my interest was piqued when they first made reference to Stamets, and Lo and behold, it's apparently to do with spores!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
You know you've made it in life when ST references you.
(Paul Stamets is like a God in mycology)
- Although leut. Stamets is a bit of a dick so far.detritus
- detritus1
I much prefer this slightly harder, adult-oriented style of Trek — as much a fan as I've been since TNG, I've always felt ST a little limp, safe and early-evening centric. Indeed, the very first time I saw Encounter at Farpoint, on VHS (!), I thought it was terribly safe and cloistered, even as a kid.
Best thing is - none of that insipid happydappy colourful West Coast-themed 90s crap...
Fuck you, Neelix.
- ha. we defo agree on all of this :)fadein11
- Shittiest character ever.dopepope
- Give me Neelix over Quark or any member of his brood any day.Continuity
- No, I'm going through DS9 at the moment (all others finished, finally!) and without a doubt, Neelix is the worstestest.detritus
- I know one character out of all the Trek series who is worse than Neelix:
Harry Fucking Kim.Continuity - yeah... but Jeri Ryan...PonyBoy
- ... she used to assimilate me in the shower before schoolPonyBoy
- Left little nanoprobes all over the shower pan, huh?ETM
- Resistance to my left hand was futilePonyBoy
- Hahahadetritus
- Hahahaha!Continuity
- The only thing worse than Neelix was Tuvix.i_monk
- Why? Didn't he have a right to live?!?ETM
- Shit Tuvix was so bad. Even how their fucking uniforms blended. Seriously?ETM
- Like what the actual fuck?
http://4.bp.blogspot…ETM - How does completely forgettable Harry Kim get mentioned in this discussion before WESLEY CRUSHER????CyBrainX
- But, yeah, Neelix is just about as bad. He's painful.CyBrainX
- Season 1 and 2 Wesley Crusher was insufferable, I agree. After that, I totally didn't mind him.Continuity
- ernexbcn2
I'm digging it, it's very different than the previous shows but I'm ok with this.
- detritus1
Ah, I'd meant to check this out :)
"So in "Stark Trek: Discovery", they have the Vulcan debug some code. Apparently, Starfleet still runs on Windows."
- https://moviecode.tu…detritus
- Aren't they using quantum computers in Trek? The code doesn't reference "states."ETM
- If I had to script all day with Eurostile Extended, I'd want to spoon my own eyeballs out.Continuity
- Fucking geeks! =Dset
- DeleteFileW -- unicode version of DeleteFile
Why not, at some point Unicode will support alien charactersdrgs - __stdcall calling convention -- for 32 bits only thoughdrgs
- ETM0
I was flicking through the channels and caught the last half of ep. 3 again. I dunno, the more I think about it the more frustrating that they just didn't make it after the TNG/Voyager timeline. They wanted to update the tech, it would make more sense. They want a conflict, then they can have it without having to retcon existing lore. They want nuance through moral ambiguity, great, it makes more sense in the future where maybe the Federation is stretched and tested in a way that makes the Borg look like a Sunday afternoon.
The idea of this new warp tech is silly in the current context (but would be perfect in a future one). We know it doesn't exist over a hundred years later, so why? Either it fails or it's a black op that Section 31 buries and even dealing with the Borg, or losing Voyager they don't take out of moth balls.
They're too scared to operate without the crutch of nostalgia, even when it works against the narrative/premise.
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- I agree. It's still pretty awesome though..set
- I have faith they will explain these discrepancies. Some were mentioned on the first After Trek show. They tell too much in my opinion. I don't like spoilers.CyBrainX
- ^ Hope so...ETM
- necromation0
i'm really digging the more dark and grittiness of this show... echoing some of the other thoughts, Star Trek was always 'teatime' safe... So they would just boggle you super science and hope you would just hang in... This series is much more my cup of tea and i actually find the Klingons actually scary... And please more melted people... that was fucking wicked!
- Gnash0
I'm liking it. But it's just another space show, to me. I don't get the"star trek" vibe that the other series had.
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- Just wait til you see the gender neutral snowflake running med bay 5fadein11
- The Orville feels more Trek than this.i_monk
- Is Orville just another excuse for Seth McFarlane to do Shatner impressions? Or try to remake Galaxy Quest?CyBrainX
- No Shatner Impressions. Maybe some Galaxy Quest. It's actually not too bad.ETM
- If Fox allows it to survive long enough to find its groove, it could become quit good.ETM
- star trek has had gender oddity since the early days. nothing new there, fadeinGnash
- I bet you fucking hate it then hahafadein11
- why would I hate it? -- it doesn't even register.Gnash
- you seem obsessed, though. Take the plunge and do it, stop just thinking about it. you'll have lots of company.Gnash
- Remember when Riker fell in love with a gender neutral alien? Kirk fought duplicates of a few female replicated versions of himself.CyBrainX
- goddamnit riker!ernexbcn
- Continuity-1
God damn, I fucking hate this miserable series.
Effectively, what the producers have done is watch 'Equinox' (Parts 1 and 2) from Voyager, and decided to base what is shaping up to be an entire series premise around it, with this whole Project Porcini/Tardigrade the Truffle Pig bullshit. Basically, re-imagining the 'Equinox' two-parter. Ugh. And absolutely none of these fucking cunty characters is even the least bit likable, let alone believable.
Fuck this shit. I'd rather staple my bag to my leg, and watch 'Enterprise'.
- And yet, like the sucker that I am, I will keep watching because I'm starved for even a little bit of Trek.Continuity
- I had to look that up. I don't see what the similarity is but I don't remember this one very well.
https://www.youtube.…CyBrainX - I still think it's gotten off to the best start of any of the series so far.CyBrainX
- ETM1
So saying 'fuck' is cool now in Trek? A weak stunt to get social media buzz?
- The word 'fuck' is the least this horrendous show's problems.Continuity
- haven't seen the ep yet but reading that it was like hearing Wesley Crusher say 'fuck'... awkward and out of place for sure I'd think. :/PonyBoy
- ^ haven't seen the episode yet...CyBrainX
- and?PonyBoy
- It was pointless and really added nothing. Low-brow attempt at humour. Thus a gimmick.ETM
- detritus1
^
Swearing.No. No, Star Trek, No.
- hotroddy0
the most likable character is Harry Mudd... and it's amazing how they've slowly emasculated Star Trek over the years.
The ORVILLE is way better. They know their target demo.
- Trek was never overtly 'masculine'. The womanizing Kirk is a meme based on like two episodes.i_monk
- i disagree. The original was super chauvenistic.. but I guess it's a reflection of the times more than a reflection of the series..hotroddy
- even in TNG, William Riker took the role of womanizer... they didn't want Piccard to be that guy.hotroddy
- I'm the target demographic if there ever was one and I don't like Seth McFarlane. I don't get my jollies on geek references.CyBrainX
- CyBrainX0
It's amazing how fickle people turned after 3 episodes.
- Watch the first three episodes of TNG to comparenb
- 5 episodes but who's countinghotroddy
- The first 2 seasons of TNG where bad. Really bad.tank02
- I'm a life long fan. TNG is my favorite series but that first season was pretty weak.CyBrainX
- check out the podcast start trek TNC with Matt Miro & Andy Secunda. Hilarious take on SO1 & S02tank02
- ETM0
The show in itself, is passable. It just should be called something else. If the words "Federation, Star Fleet and Klingons" were removed from the script, you are left with basically nothing embodying Trek.
- CyBrainX2
I don't have a problem if the show doesn't resemble other star trek but I don't even think that's true. It's sci fi. There are familiar races even a few familiar characters. It's in the original timeline. There's the theme of seeking out new life. There are ethical decisions about how to interact with the new life. There are detached views of humanity from other points of view and you can tell there will be more. It feels a lot more like Star Trek to me than Deep Space 9 ever did.