Apple Fail
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- docpoz
They are struggling without Jobs in the PC dept. No touchscreen imacs or macbooks? Cmon.
Even if the mouse and keyboard is the more efficient input for desktops and nontebooks it should not have to be it's lone input.
I want to touch my photoshop palettes in addition to standard inputs. Period.
No excuses.
- lowimpakt0
OK
- detritus1
Touchscreen on Desktop/Laptop is a TERRIBLE idea, which you'd know if you'd spent any amount of time trying it and which is probably why MS are having to backtrack with Win10's non-tablet interfaces.
if you've got some light single-handed tablet device, touchscreen is obviously better than a keyboard or a mouse.
I'm no AppleFanboy, but you seem to have entirely ignored all the improvements they've made to gestural multitouch and how big their trackpads have gotten over the past few years. They're assholes at Apple, not idiots.
- I suspect Apple will lead the way in pairing tablets with 'real' computers - creating secondary, quite intelligent, interface formats for your favourite appsdetritus
- Totally agree... i've used my ex windows touch screen and it was pointless. i couldn't imagine trying to use it to actually create anything on.necromation
- detritus, your prediction is reality no later than 2012's MS Surface launch.mekk
- That's not quite what I meant, mekk - I was more thinking a 'Photoshop App' that sits on your tablet and allows slider control, etc.
...detritus - MS did moot SmartGlass a while back, but I'll be damned if I've seen it promoted or out in the wild.
...detritus - Apple have a more coherent ecosystem and better handle on integrative software design (imho) than MS.
I mean Jesus, have you used Win8?
Woeful.detritus - MS showed a concept demo of that glass surface but never developed or released any tech. It was just an idea and it was never real.monospaced
- face_melter2
MacBooks I can sort of understand, but not on a desktop - no-one wants to stretch their arm out across a desk to touch a screen when the command is already at your fingertips.
Also: greasy fingerprints and smears, on *my* screen? Best come correct when you try that shit.
- inteliboy2
The moment Apple make touch a thing of OS X is the moment they have fucked off every single pro user.
It's a stupid idea. And stupid ideas that investors and share holders scream for.
Mac is not for gimmicks and nonsense. I use this shit to work. Leave the weird fanboy features to the phone/tablet world thanks.
- they have left the pro market a long time ago, son.mekk
- They make a Mac Pro. It's a beast.monospaced
- It's horribly overpriced and not upgradeable. Only blinded companies would invest in such a machine.mekk
- I know many video editors that would disagree. And they actually are upgrade able. Anyway.monospaced
- uh-hu? You're stuck with the CPU architecture until a new one comes out, GPU-change is worse than ever, Internal HDD space is a joke...mekk
- But oh, you've got thunderbolt.mekk
- I thought the gpu s could be swapped. Video editors rarely ever use internal storage for video anyway since it's so big. can you build one with same specs?monospaced
- I'm genuinely curious since my video editor friends swear by them and say it's the most powerful video editing available. But I can't personally verify that.monospaced
- Obviously it's not a machine for the masses. It's really designed for one thing.monospaced
- Of course these machines are fast and all but you really can build a faster one with far less money. I've impressed a lot of my coworkers with my $1600 PC,mekk
- esp when it comes to adobe software. InDesign is buttery smooth on Windows eg.mekk
- Was talking about the video cards actually. I heard they were hard or impossible to build in the same config as Mac Pro. And no thunderbolt.Maybe it's changed.monospaced
- I'm not trying to argue even. It's just that people who use them for what they do call them the best and they've used it all. Just my 2cmonospaced
- ..until you still need Final Cut Pro. Then you're trapped. But moving on to Premiere is strongly recommended.mekk
- Ask moldero. He might have some input as a video editor himself.monospaced
- did an online yesterday on a Mac Pro, day before grade on a mac, week before offline edit on mac etc.... OS X is a great os and still fine for pro's.inteliboy
- point is to not want all that OTHER iOS shit on a mac.inteliboy
- mono: the video cards are standard ATIs, nothing you can't have on PC.zarkonite
- zark: can you build a machine with multiple?monospaced
- i worked on apple computers back when they were called macintosh during 80s and such. since the mid 90s they turned into almost shit. 2k + just shit. sorry.renderedred
- today, no difference between apple and pc. except the hipster price you pay for apples.renderedred
- lol @ ATImekk
- @renderedred for that extra price you get a limited software, shit repairability and less harware choice, too!mekk
- set1
I had a dream a few years back that I was at work and my whole desk was the screen. It was angled up at the back towards me and I was working in photoshop, while standing up, using my hands on a desk sized touch screen.
Want.
- set1
...but a touchscreen macbook or imac sounds utterly pointless
- pinkfloyd0
I would like to swipe page with my willy.
- http://99gifs.com/-i…Bluejam
- That's what the Apple Watch is fordetritus
- monospaced-9
He's right guys. Ever since touch screen laptops and desktops came out they have been trouncing apple in sales. If any of apples failures will take them down its this. Not their high prices or underpowered gaming rigs or shitty icons. No. It'll be because they left out a touch screen feature. I give them 6 months and they will be bankrupt, especially now that windows 10 is out and will destroy the competition.
- Haha. Guess the fanboys here can't handle a little hard truth. Enjoy your expensive underpowered shiny pieces of shit with no touch screensmonospaced
- My gaming rig has a better video card and is 3x more powerful and cost only $500. Apple fail.monospaced
- Plus OS X is not a real operating system. Can't do real work with it.monospaced
- Are you having a conversation with yourself here?mekk
- Nah man. I'm talking to all the brainwashed Apple fanboys who think their investments will last. Apple is DOOOOOOOMED!!!!monospaced
- Short Appl!formed
- damn bro. so easy to turn into yurimon. once sheeple fail to see the truth.yurimon
- /smonospaced
- trooperbill1
apple failed with the S ranges... not enough variation year on year to keep me interested plus ios hasnt evolved since the gen 1 phone in any significant way... its locked in the mid 2000s in terms of ... well everything.
its like someone at apple said in 2005 this is the perfect phone lets never change it.
- Sales don't lie. It's such a failure that nobody even buys them.monospaced
- the phone wars is boring and a kinda dated argument these days. they all do the exact same shit no matter what you got.inteliboy
- mekk-2
You all sound like 2007 when everyone was like "bruh a phone without buttons will nevur work, how am I supposed to call someone bruh bruh bruh"
Try it, it's awesome with proper hardware and optimized software.
Have a look at this:
- formed1
You don't have to use it if you don't want to, but not having one at all is lazy.
Go try a Surface with the stylus. You can use a mouse and keyboard, but for some things the stylus is a billion times faster.
It's about offering flexibility. I'd consider a Mac laptop running W10, but without a touchscreen it's just a more expensive Dell with less features.
They are also way behind in the stylus department, though it looks like they are finally coming out with one.
- I wouldn't expect much from an Apple stylus. Their mice suck and have always sucked, the keyboard only looks nice and the usb trackpad was a joke.mekk
- Probably, but if they want the ipad to sell at all they'll have to keep up with Surface and Note (new note looks great)formed
- Exactly, Formed.docpoz
- What do you mean "if they want the iPad to sell?" MS would bust a nut to have a fraction of the iPad sales.monospaced
- I guess you haven't been paying attention to the declining ipad sales?formed
- I saw them. Even still they are numbers MS could only dream of.monospaced
- iPad is a dying product, hence why they are releasing their 'Surface' product soon.fadein11
- You're basing that on only speculation. Surface sales are a tiny fraction of the iPad. Apple announced no new large iPad either.monospaced
- it's coming bro... just you wait - all my predictions come true.fadein11
- Cool. I'm not saying it's not. Only that it's pretty much speculation only. Kinda like the Apple TV set that was surely coming.monospaced
- fyoucher10
I already have to deal with sneeze snot on my iMac screen. Def don't want to deal with jizz-laden fingerprints.
- section_0142
Nope. Apple win. For the simple fact that I don't want finger prints all over my fucking monitor (or laptop screen). Wtf are you using a stylus for? Get a Wacom like every other illustrator if that's your thing. Personally, I prefer the pen tool for illustrations, and there's no way a stylus is better in that scenario.
I know a few people with touch screen laptops who don't like them because they accidentally touch the screen and close a window (or whatever).
F touch screen.
- ernexbcn0
lol
- Ben990
On Lifehacker this morning:
''I Actually Really Like My Laptop's Touch Screen''
- Ben990
''The so-called Gorilla arm: Gorilla arm is a term describing the tired arms users get after reaching out and touching a screen for a long time. It's been cited by many as a reason why touch screens will not take over.''
- Ben990
''More smears on your screen: Greasy, scummy smears are the bane of every smartphone and tablet user. It's no different when you're constantly touching a PC screen. Getting out the microfiber cloth more often is a hassle, but for most of us this alone isn't a deal-breaker.''