building a platform help
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- clearThoughts0
You either need some genius developer kid or somebody who's already developed and launched a few platforms.
And yes, you'll probably need loads of money because a person that can both understand development and create something like this is expensive.
- Raybandana0
Okay thanks guys. Lots of good tips.
- Al_dizzle0
Im working with a startup right now, also building a 'platform' that handles high traffic volume.
My developer uses ruby on rails as the web framework, and we also use bootstrap in for quick iteration.
- monNom0
Every young developer you talk to "could build facebook". So you've got to sort out the wheat from the chaff. They're probably not lying, but it may take them a hundred years... and developers get bored.
To find the right person, network your ass off. Look for someone with a number of projects under their belt. Probably if they're good they'll be working on something already, so you may need a lot of seed capital and equity to convince them to come work on your project.
You also need to be at a high-level in your end of the business, or talented people will avoid you. If you're not some hot-shot MBA or have a history of starting and running businesses, you'll need to find that person as well. Which begs the question, why are you involved in the business? If you're not integral, you're going to get left behind.
- SteveJobs0
"Well I have a clients that paying alot.."
What is a lot? Does he have financial backing? Is he technologically savvy, particularly in the web world?
I own a social platform that was built from scratch by a small team. It's not been put to use do to other impeding projects, but it's full-featured and includes full text indexing for searches, geo location data for proximity searching, facial recognition for uploading photo's along with the concept of photo albums. It also provides a lot of other recognizable social networking type features such as walls with posts, comments, messaging, likes, loggin in/register with facebook, events, friend requests, etc. There was even work begun on a mobile iteration as well.
The team was comprised of very seasoned engineers with extensive experience in social media, one having worked at MySpace during it's peak.
We could discuss selling this platform if your business partner/client is willing to make a reasonable investment. There was roughly 10 months of design and development work put into the project, not considering conceptual and planning work. If you're *really* serious about this let me know.
- ETM0
You mentioned earlier "glorified blog, with user login."
If that is the case maybe look at something like ExpressionEngine to get it started. Or even just to prototype and evaluate before dumping huge amounts of cash. Like vaxorcist said earlier, many times you start aiming for A then have to pivot to capture B.
http://ellislab.com/expressionen…
It has built in member management without plugins, it also has a 1st party forum/comments module. It started as a blog but has grown to something more substantial. So it has room to grow, but also has blog-like functionality retained as well.
Then if it grows, scale it to a new or custom platform when required.
But if you find a good ExpressionEngine dev, you can be online in pretty quick time.Features:
https://store.ellislab.com/#ee-c…Quality 3rd party add-on community as well:
http://devot-ee.com/
- lambsy0
first off, how much money is he budgeting for this project?
you said he's got plenty of money. are we talking like 5k or 500k?
- Raybandana0
25k
- ...that's not that much. I was thinking you were gonna say $100kETM
- im not a full service agency... i can expect 100kRaybandana
- Hourly rates change for company scale. But a project takes what it takes.ETM
- facebook started on less than $15k according to the social networkomg
- It's different when the conceptualist and the dev are the same person.ETM
- sublocked0
give me 25k. I'll sell you http://lyricful.com
- Raybandana0
without giving away to much.
The site is 2 user. 1 user searches the user 2 and can rate user 2 and write a review on user 2. The 2 user has a profile and can edit his/her profile. All of this goes back to a CMS where the admin approves the rating/reviews of user 1 and approves profile edits of user 2. User 2 pays a membership fee for being a part of the site.
That's pretty much it.
- of course it will probably grow beyond this... but this is the basic function/ideaRaybandana
- Lol. You;re not working for these guys are you?
https://wizof.biz/ETM - Similar idea. Find a pro, they offer you advice, you review them. Payment based on membership and review quality.ETM
- It's tanking...ETM
- no its nothing like that at all.Raybandana
- I was mostly joking... ;)ETM
- sublocked0
I'll write that for you for $50k and get it done within a month.
Email me.
- budgets only like 10k for dev.Raybandana
- Wow,,, $10K is not much. I thought $25k was a stretch for something quality, stable and scalable.ETM
- 10k? lol.....sublocked
- well what i do - not eat... just say fuck it.. if no one has a million dollars then I guess I'm not working at all!
Raybandana - No, a client gets what they can afford, not simply what they want for the money they have.ETM
- Raybandana0
What would be the harm in using this guys? http://codemyconcept.com/
Then have a developer take care of the site.
- using this for the traffic - http://aws.amazon.co…Raybandana
- If I was your client and I heard you ever considered BS like this for a serious project I'd be gone in 2 seconds.ETM
- The fact that you would try to create a system like from the design only out means you have no clue,ETM
- Here developer, I have an HTML template ready to go. Make me Facebook. Wow!ETM
- Just wow! LOLETM
- Its not facebook you maniac. Its a simple CMS site.. That could grow into facebook. But I dont think it will.Raybandana
- why are these guys BS? whats so wrong with it? please explain?Raybandana
- I would send the PSD's and not use templates.Raybandana
- First, you started this thread saying it was like Facebook.ETM
- I know - sorry bud...Raybandana
- Then you say you have a $25k budget. Then you say you have only $10k for dev.ETM
- well at the moment... but the idea is still being flushed out. So maybe its going to take more! I dunno - thats why I'm asking you guys!
Raybandana - asking people for some guidance.Raybandana
- You also have called it a glorified blog and a simple CMS.ETM
- Your not asking for guidance. You don;t know what the fuck you're doing and your hoping we can dig you out of this hole.ETM
- You have vague details, no planning, no architecture, and you want us to say do A, B and C from that and it will cost only X dollars.ETM
- x amount of dollars.ETM
- Sorry to be a dick. But I think some honestly is required.ETM
- Well I will get sue through the fuckin roof, if i tell you what it is.. I'm just a human like you... looking for help.. sorry I couldnt be clear.Raybandana
- be clear. but that's how she is - boss.Raybandana
- mg330
I asked this exact question to a really talented architect/developer I worked with a couple years ago. His answer?
"4 developers and six months." That's development, QA edits, and their testing outside of actual testing by a QA team/person.
- so you saying that a real development team, would be more thorough?Raybandana
- Sorry, meant to say 6 solid months dev work. QA, other stuff outside of that time.mg33
- well no one has the budget for 6 months of dev time. Unless your Coca-Cola. I'm dealing with smaller clients. That could never afford that.Raybandana
- afford that.Raybandana
- ETM0
@Raybandan
Too bad your client can't recognize the flaws in this.
If user 2 pays for user 1 to review them and it's bad, you're paying money to be knocked in the public space. But then you say comments are admin approved, which makes me think that really negative comments wouldn't be published. Which means it's curated. Once the public knows the reviews are curated or slanted, no one will use it (assuming the captured an audience at all).
I know, not your prob. You need to make it, you didn't come up with it.
- Raybandana0
@ETM those comments are all irrelevant because the site doesn't work like that at all.. I can't explain to you what it is because of a NDA... But I wouldnt worry about that.. I'm worried about who I should get to develop this.. and how much it will cost. I got off on the wrong foot saying its like "facebook". But it will be something that could have a very high volume of traffic. And I just want to make sure I'm picking a good developer to help me.
- Alright. Call Bob the Dev. 585-555-1234. He said site unseen, $7kETM
- Very helpful.Raybandana
- So's the info you have provided. I get NDA, but without details don't expect us to be able to provide much help.ETM
- right on brother!Raybandana
- Raybandana0
2 different users types. handful of functions. Custom CMS.
- sublocked0
With that type of budget you're not going to get an "experienced developer". Hit craigslist and pray.