Israel bombing shit..
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- Khurram1
And when i say bombs, i mean "targeted" surgical strikes against military infrastructure and personnell...
- imagineallthepeople-1
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" And when i say bombs, i mean "targeted" surgical strikes against military infrastructure and personnell... oh wait.. That's ALL OF THEM!!"
– KhurramDaniel Tragerman, 4, seen during a visit at the presidential residence in Jerusalem in early August. Daniel was killed by shrapnel from a mortar shell that hit his home in Kibbutz Nahal Oz on Friday, August 22. He was laid to rest on August 24.
- imagineallthepeople-3
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"So sad that Israel puts little children inside conflict zones in crowded areas surrounded by IDF soldiers of Yahweh with guns ready to kill palestinians"
– Khurramok. then by your logic, you shouldn't have a problem with the IDF actually levelling gaza, killing everybody. which israel is technically capable of. personally, i find that unthinkably cruel, inhumane.
- Khurram1
i have a problem with that because i have a problem with the existence of the state of Israel
- imagineallthepeople-3
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are you sure you have thought that through? i guess your problem with the state being all the nasty shit that's happened 1948 onward?to draw from that the conclusion that all israelis are fair game now, for all kinds of nasty shit, this logic kind of bites you in your own ass.
- Khurram0
you lost me bro...
- imagineallthepeople-3
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well shit.
- Ravdyk0
imagineallthepeople how do you think the suffering can be stopped?
- imagineallthepeople-3
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"imagineallthepeople how do you think the suffering can be stopped?"
-Ravdyki think there's zero chance for a solution currently. israelis behaving badly right now, pals the same. international players clueless/not invested as ever.
in the middle term, i don't see how peace is going to work without a strong palestinian civil society, a majority that's pushing hard for anti-violence and pro-peace with israel. so that israel has a real authority to negotiate with, someone dependable, trustworthy.
this kind of attitude shift in the society would take generations to build or would require a level of carnage not seen before. not looking good.
- imagineallthepeople-3
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expanding on that, abbas' idea of unilaterally pushing for statehood is only going to make things worse imo. even if the PA manages to get the recognitions, which seems possible considering the international communities' stance toward israel, there just isn't a functioning authority right now.fundamental divisions into militant + quasi-militant factions, no national unity. no responsible, capable leadership in sight. this means that the government won't get anything done in the best case, in the worst case they will wage war, internally + externally.
- straw man's argument: Palestinians pushing for statehood will only make things worsepr2
- Khurram1
No justice no peace. Death to Israel. One-state solution. From the river to the sea.
- imagineallthepeople-2
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you're kuz, right?
- GeorgesII2
Ehehhe it worked,
If you post anything in this thread iatp will magically appear to defend the israeli gov,
Pretty amazing to see
- Beeswax0
Khurram, your are right now rooting for a never ending conflict.
Destroying Israel, killing everyone would just make everything worse for everybody.
Do you really think that is a solution or are you just trolling?
And I'm saying this as a muslim.- you spelled korran wrong. :)
Isreal is rothchilds bitch. Isrealis need to wake up from shleepageyurimon
- you spelled korran wrong. :)
- Khurram0
I'm rooting for justice and a one-state solution. I'm rooting for the downfall of an ethno-supremacist apartheid state built on a foundation of ethnic cleansing and racial subjugation.
I'm rooting for the equal political rights of Palestinians, both the refugees and those trapped in Israeli-controlled bantustans, across the whole of the land stolen from them.
That's not necessarily an endorsement of endless violence. A mediocre Indian with a messiah complex called Gandhi was able to bring the British empire to its kness "non-violently". Through bombs, bullets or the ballot, Zionism will also be brought to its knees.
But, you know, violence against opression IS a potent political force and wars of attrition can last centuries before the opressor realises how unviable its project to manufacture racial superiorirty actually is and begins to inexorably crumble.
And I'm saying that as a devout atheist. xxx
- Your talking to wrong crowd. Tell that to the psychopaths n sociopaths who claim ownership of the world.yurimon
- Try taking away their toys of torture, killing and pleasure? Study psychopathy and you will see how it all makes sense.yurimon
- You are trying to analyze the world as how can normal people create so much carnage? It will never make sense.yurimon
- The only way this continues is because normal careing people dont do jack shyet or stand for anything decent. and give the psycho the authority. follow their orders.yurimon
- psychopaths control of the resources, follow their orders. So Yeah your existence is to feed them their sustenance.yurimon
- coldarchon0
"I'm rooting for the downfall of an ethno-supremacist apartheid state built on a foundation of ethnic cleansing and racial subjugation."
Yeah Khurram, down with the ottoman empire, and the wahabi, and pakistani, and afghani, and any other muslim empire that has done exactly what you said ..
- hey, yeah! Down with the Ottomans! I hope that Turkic empire one day collapses unders its own bureaucratic weight...Khurram
- Oh wait.. it has already.... Down with the Han Chinese! They're right fuckers those people.Khurram
- and because it has happened in the past, it is gone for you?coldarchon
- are you speaking English? That's normally how history works.Khurram
- HaHa, you think you are smarter than you are ..coldarchon
- imagineallthepeople-3
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"I'm rooting for justice..."no you're not. you're empty rethorics without moral footing, ethics, legal ground, common sense in regard to conflict, no consideration of historic + political realities, logic, fairness, compassion, reason. and you know that.
worse than the "kill em all" idiots from either side, because they don't claim to have a reflected position, but simply react stupidly. which is considerably less disgusting than your shit.
- dont just root from yo couch, do something mr complacent rooteryurimon