Shooting of the Day
Shooting of the Day
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- BusterBoy0
How those gun laws going again?
"Shooting in New Orleans park leaves at least 16 people wounded
Police were on their way to break up a large crowd at Bunny Friend park in the city’s 9th ward when shooting broke out between two groups.
A gunfight between two groups in a New Orleans park where hundreds of people were gathered for a block party and the filming of a music video has left 16 wounded, police said.
Shooting erupted at around 6.15pm on Sunday night in Bunny Friend park in the city’s upper ninth ward, police said, although no fatalities were reported."
- you mean laws that supposed to keep guns out of criminal hands? oh wait. criminals dont follow laws...you almost got me.yurimon
- gang violence makes up the majority of gun crime in the states..yurimon
- as long as there's people hiding behind yuri's comment above and NRA's lobbying, it will get nowhereformed
- hey yuri - there is a child shooting every 36 hours, surely they aren't "criminals" tooformed
- there are children dying in different ways accidentally everywhere. where are their parents? how much of it is preventable? you have to go through everyyurimon
- situation which is different. you have to be careful yes its no joke but a huge responsibility.yurimon
- whats driving gang violence in the states? which is what % of the crime?yurimon
- er.. what exactly is wrong about tougher gun laws? why do people fight against this? fucking bizarre.inteliboy
- whats was wrong with the drug war? or war on poverty? the idea sold, and political reality is much different with the outcome then you we realize. worth a look.yurimon
- i'm all for solving problems at the core. which requires bit more dialogue, reality checks. thinking. the whole reaction, solution, is not going to solve it.yurimon
- never has sovled anything with how we currently try to solve problems. and we havent identified the core problem. no one really cares it seems.yurimon
- yuri is absolutely right that the majority of gun violence is from gangs. ignoring reality doesn't make anyones case stronger.IRNlun6
- The Yurimon clown car continues...utopian
- "never has sovled anything"
What the fuck kind of ridiculous statement is that. So the fact here in Australia we haven't had a mass shooting massacre since...BusterBoy - tighter laws were introduced was just a gigantic coincidence?BusterBoy
- But you Australians are different. Muricans are special!pango
- Laws and regulations actually solve lots of things. Humans are fickle, irrational beings and often need to be reminded how to keep it together as a society.inteliboy
- In theory it shouldn't be illegal to do hard drugs or own a gun -- but certainly there should be some very damn annoying hoops to jump through to get there.inteliboy
- Yes like here in Australia, it's tough to get a gun license. So pretty much no-one entertains the idea to do so. "Eh fuck it, pain in the arse". And we move on.inteliboy
- 1, it hasnt changed the murder rate much, 2 by your logic, paris attacks didnt happen cause they too have laws. needs more detail stats examination.yurimon
- The "it won't make a diff because criminals don't follow laws" argument is just a pathetic excuse to do nothing. It's like not even trying or admitting shitmonospaced
- No wonder gun nuts think laws won't work at all. Nobody has even tried for real.monospaced
- hows the drug war going again? its been tried stats dont add up like the propaganda says.yurimon
- in my opinion, it hasn't been tried in earnest because people flip out that it's against their "rights" and don't forget all the fucking gun loopholes out theremonospaced
- what makes you think this move of politics is going to be as effective as prohibition as opposed to solving the real issues without laws. reason this is right.yurimon
- I didn't say opposed to. I said gun laws are bullshit right now. If you think drugs are the real issue here, then those should also be looked into.monospaced
- Damn stop comparing this issue with all these other issues. Such a childish way to have a debate and ignore the actual point.inteliboy
- Yuri - what gets me is hardcore advocates just regurgitate the same silly arguments, they cannot, EVER, answer a simple question.formed
- Avoidance and denial reeks of laziness and lack of compassion. Answer the questions w/o unaffiliated ramblings of this and and that...just answer them.formed
- what gets me is hardcore liberal just regurgitate the same silly arguments, they cannot, EVER, answer a simple question and hypocritically cant solve problems.yurimon
- most of us carry an obsolete, or abstracted notions of how laws work. good example is the drug war, war on poverty. both have aggressive regulations but haveyurimon
- we are thought that if something bad is happening you need a law to curb behavior. if you study prohibition and true nature of how bought legislature passes lawyurimon
- s and what real intentions are, their results, you will see the failures in policy. because laws usually. drug war is a perfect example in how you createyurimon
- cartels, create incentive for corruption as soon as money is involved with super sized bureaucracies that eat up taxes with no little results proportionate toyurimon
- spending. this is already highly documented. so you can have solutions but your indoctrination prevents you from vetting real solutions from past faild resultsyurimon
- plus you carry this weird christian influenced notion that people are bad by default and cant be trusted without a higher power over them instead of seeingyurimon
- deeper social failings in child development. your stuck in an institutional paradigm that is failing. so go ahead see where thing will turn out.yurimon
- jaylarson0
3 men in custody in connection with shooting near Black Lives Matter protests. minneapolis, mn
http://bringmethenews.com/2015/1…
- imbecile0
- I'd love to hear someone's defense of this.formed
- who would be defending this level of negligence in parenting or caretaking?yurimon
- and there you go..."guns don't kill, toddlers do"formed
- 52 bad parents in 24 states that can't lock away their weapons and ammo securely.BabySnakes
- who would leave an unsecured weapon around a child. or anything dangerous, you put away, sharp objects, sockets, whatever. dont go retardy broh..yurimon
- Yeah. Any gun owner knows the best fire arm is one that is locked away and not loaded. You know. In case of robbers.monospaced
- mono owns many guns.yurimon
- any responsible gun own can put a loaded weapon out of the reach of a 3 year old? unless it is that kid crawling up the wall in that gifBabySnakes
- http://i.imgur.com/p…BabySnakes
- MuriKKKa Fuck Yeah!utopian
- I don't own guns yurimon. What a stupid ass thing to say.monospaced
- mono... you need to install a sarcasm detector, dude :)
<3PonyBoy - "From 2011 to 2013, an average of 11,000 children under age 18 were treated in emergency rooms for injuries involving TVs..."... that's about 105...PonyBoy
- ... accidents per week... should probably start banning those TV's as they're far more dangerous than guns...PonyBoy
- ... also according to the Washington post:PonyBoy
- https://www.washingt…PonyBoy
- I really couldn't lay it on thicker. Me thinks it's other who need help detecting it.monospaced
- What does the TV stat have to do with this? People also choke on broccoli... and slip in the shower... and fall down stairs blah blah blah.inteliboy
- http://i.imgur.com/P…utopian
- intelli... my point is you should be more upset w/parental negligence... not the existence of guns :)PonyBoy
- considering the number of guns and toddlers in america a total of 13 suicide and 2 homicides... thats not that baddeathboy
- for random number people there is 85 forklift deaths per yeardeathboy
- why, and how, do people bring up these silly comparisons? Guns are made of ONE thing, to kill. Show me something else that serves that ONE purpose.formed
- anything else is just a ridiculous avoidance tactic that sounds/looks foolish.formed
- You guys are all crazy! The trick is to give ALL toddlers guns so the good ones can stop the bad ones.sarahfailin
- formed—the point is that guns are safe—regardless of what they're for (protection—or 'killing' if you want to be dramatic) :) Negligence should piss you of morePonyBoy
- it pisses me off when people just jump to absurd comparisons and deny that there are things you can do to prevent these needless deathsformed
- it divides the country and just makes people angry. There is much that can be done besides trying to deflect the blame and responsibility.formed
- and how would you prevent these needless deaths, formed? I can go right into a plethora of 'needless death' scenarios not involving guns that far outweigh...PonyBoy
- ... gun deaths... but you'll get upset again and forget that guns don't kill... they don't get up off the shelve and fire themselves.PonyBoy
- guns are not "safe", they are deadly. You can contain that, but trying to shift the blame just makes people look at gun advocates as selfish nuts.formed
- Negligence exists... it's not an excuse to kill the 2nd amendment.PonyBoy
- guns are PERFECTLY safe devices in the hands of someone trained... you obviously haven't been around responsible gun ownersPonyBoy
- I'm gonna back out of this argument, formed... we won't get anywhere and I much prefer to stay inspired by this community that have these endless...PonyBoy
- ... angry conversations.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3PonyBoy - explosives are safe and don't kill either, right? So why not allow C4 to be sold at Walmart? Surely I could stop a criminal with a trip wire and explosivesformed
- see how silly that sounds?formed
- and nobody, anywhere, has ever said anything about killing any amendments, again, that's the fear mongering talking, always extremes,formed
- never reasonable discussions.formed
- and for the record, I am a gun owner, I just get tired of people jumping to these ridiculous extremes - no excuse, work to find solutions, compromise, etc., etcformed
- owning a gun you know that it's on you to refrain from moronic negligence—also— the 2nd ammend is very much up for grabs- to get to step X you have start at APonyBoy
- the comparisons made of 'what kills' is not silly, formed... stop blaming the device and start blaming the human... that's all I'm sayingPonyBoy
- Blame the human and make it hard to get guns when they want to kill. It's not that hard to figure out. Oh and ban the insane automatic weapons.monospaced
- Nobody needs massive artillery to protect themselves. That's just ridiculous.monospaced
- When was the last time an automatic weapon was used in a mass shooting... or in the shooting of a toddler for that matter? (or artillery that wasn't homemade?)PonyBoy
- AR15's and the like are not automatic, mono... you can't buy / own auto weapons w/out jumping through mad hoops— they're not really an issuePonyBoy
- AR15's avail. to the public aren't fully auto (I meant to say)... any auto-weapon owned had to of been made before 1986 and is a bitch to get a permit forPonyBoy
- You can't control human stupidity. You CAN control their access to things that kill other humans. It's really that simple.formed
- Full auto is not an issue, but the absurd number of assault rifles available is an issue. There is no logic behind those beyond Rambo wannabe's and idiots thatformed
- think they can be a "hero" in the next Walmart parking lot debacle (let's see what lovely news comes this Friday)formed
- Right. Assault weapons. Whatever. So stupid.monospaced
- Killer babies, huh?
Jeb Bush can wage this war...futurefood - formed, you should run for furor. you'd be great.yurimon
- Ben990
Americans are afraid. Gunz are in case of zombie/terrorists apocalypse
you never know
- or our own GovernmentBabySnakes
- gunz to stop the open carry nutzformed
- jaylarson0
Active Shooting At Planned Parenthood In Colorado Springs, Multiple Victims
http://thinkprogress.org/health/…- Because life is precious?monospaced
- White shooter = arrested.ArmandoEstrada
- i used to love this album...cruddlebub
- utopian3
Just your typical everyday...White, Christian, Racist, Republican, NRA Card Carrying, American Terrorist!
- < so who da FUQ is this nutty looking fruitcake?Ramanisky2
- utopian0
Yet another religious, white, gun nut, Republican from the deep south.
- Terrorist.nb
- and out come more nuts celebrating this horrific and cowardly act, these are the extremists I am afraid of...this isn't too far awayformed
- Not Christian. Christianity is a religion of peace.IRNlun6
- lol @ IRNlun6monospaced
- IRNlun6 is correct... same thing goes for those who say ISIS is not Islam... right?PonyBoy
- Can we stop using the word terrorist? It's dumb.pango
- Christianity throughout history has the been the worst, murdering, crusading, genocidal religion that has ever been. Fuck off Christian cuntset
- Police didn't use lethal force in this instance. And there has been no calls for Christians to act to stop this in the media. Curious.monoboy
- Maybe they are too busy combatting extremist like the KKK?monoboy
- yeah... but Christians 'say' they're a peaceful religion... that's my point, set... Islam says they're peaceful too... so... they MUST BE PEACEFUL... right?PonyBoy
- This guy, like the Paris murderers are just extremists... they're not examples of the actual faith... right? Or does this only work w/Islam extremists?PonyBoy
- I've been noticing my peers in the West have an intense hatred for Christians because they grew up as one or with them... but often my peers...PonyBoy
- ... act the exact opposite when it's some Islamist prick killing up the neighbor— in their case it's cuz they're poor and abused by the USA...PonyBoy
- ... it's almost as if one faith gets a pass by the West when in fact both are fucking disgusting in terms of the way they treat their fellow man.PonyBoy
- lol - all religious nuts are pricks...fadein11
- Jesus taught to love your enemies. The other guy taught the opposite. If christians are killing in Jesus' name, they're not following Jesus.scransom5
- You sound a little brainwashed thereset
- I'm comparing text with text. This guy is mentally ill and just as quick as you to condemn irrationally.scransom5
- mekk1
Georgia 6-year-old finds gun in couch cushion, fatally shoots herself
- georgesIII0
- wow. twice as many whites killed than blacks. I wouldn't have thought that based on media accounts.Gnash
- #WhiteLivesSortaMatt...PonyBoy
- Einstein, look at the numbers killed to percentage of population.pr2
- i see what you're saying pr2, I was only reacting to the disparity in the coverage that I see. A meaningless anecdote for sure.Gnash
- it simply wasn't what i expected to seeGnash
- Blacks make up 18% of US population so if 523 white were killed, blacks should equal 94. But they equal 265 = that's almost 3x as many as whites.pr2
- Thus the coverage of the media concentrating on blacks.pr2
- CALLES0
Breaking news
Reports of 'active shooter' in San Bernardino, California
- imbecile2
- i hate when people start to compares everything like this to diminish something.Ben99
- it IS diminished... I hate when the media takes minimal (yet horrible shit) and turns it into something that people expect to see as 99% on a chart like this.PonyBoy
- If this chart was showing '% refugees to fear' I'm sure folks would scream racism etc... although it too is a minute (minimal) / not-to-panic number... yes?PonyBoy
- Ben990
In the news over here:
"The Americans are arming themselves at a record pace"
(...) Records of gun sales every month for seven months. The indices show that Americans are arming themselves at an unprecedented rate. And killings such as San Bernardino, far from curbing the phenomenon, are known to accelerate it. (...)
- gee... go figure...PonyBoy
- Maniacs go on mass-shootings... Politicians and Entertainers get to hire body guards / have Secret Service while everyone else is left fending for themselves...PonyBoy
- —anytime shit happens like this in the State people exercise they're 2nd ammend. right and step-up to defend themselves/family... makes tons of sense actuallyPonyBoy
- well.. not for people scared of a simple deadly device... to them it's time to panic and scream 'redneck' or 'godboy' towards anyone defending themselves & fam.PonyBoy
- But hey... Guns Kill... People don't - people need leadership / A Parental State to hold their hands through their woosified existancePonyBoy
- Like the terrorists stuff, it's a downward spiral. The more guns, the more death, the more death, the more guns.
Good luck.Ben99 - You understand that we are already past saturation in terms of arms... yes? You ban them here and all that is left with them is the criminal element...PonyBoy
- Thats why I say good luck.Ben99
- ... and that same 'criminal element' will find themselves arms when they damn well please... legal or not... so why tie the hands of the average citizen?PonyBoy
- Definition of criminal: someone who breaks the law. If the law states 'no guns'... do you really think they're going to give to fucks when we're this saturated?PonyBoy
- There are so many arguments here as to why it's not only fine... BUT SMART to arm yourself... I think you get that Ben... else why are you taking Karate?PonyBoy
- Criminals have guns over here too and they dont shoot normal people in their house. The biggest problem of USA is that you're all afraid. You're fucking afraid.Ben99
- No Ben... the biggest problem over here is that we stopped caring about our family unit, we stopped caring about morality vs. pleasure... we don't care...PonyBoy
- and its Wing Chun Kung Fu, not karate ;-)Ben99
- ... to raise our children with the love and normalcy that comes with a simple family unit. We've turned over our children's well-being to video games and tv...PonyBoy
- ... we've got a foul sense of what 'love for your fellowman' means. We have some SERIOUS problems.. we're def. scared to speak out about these things...PonyBoy
- ... and instead rely on pop-culture / bureaucrats to guide and teach us. It all starts with the youth... we stopped giving a shit about them years ago. :(PonyBoy
- The right to protect ourselves with arms was meant to step-up against a tyrannical gov... those days of 'fear' also still exist... gotta admit this is not as...PonyBoy
- ... secure or welcoming a nation as our bureaucrats would like us to be... that has everything to do with us RELYING ON THEM... and not family.PonyBoy
- over all crime is actually steady. gang violence is the bulk of crime stats. just a matter of what makes news and holds your attention.yurimon
- If everyone truly took care of their family first and then lovingly helped their neighbor ... just imagine where things would be.PonyBoy
- 'Family' is being shit on over here... absolutely torn apart— FUCK— we're being taught that the idea of a 'family' is ARCHAIC ffs—what should we expect??PonyBoy
- "Wing Chun Kung Fu"— haha! sorry!!! You're not painting the fence or waxing the floor. :D My wife and I are about to be enrolled in Krav Maga— so I feel you. :)PonyBoy
- All these massacres were done with legally obtained arms. That's about all there is to it. This silly "criminals will get them anyway" is a tired,formed
- A lot of those guys have boners... better than viagra.fadein11
- NRA argument, regurgitated over and over, right along with "guns don't kill" (even though, somehow, people don't kill w/o guns, crazy right?)formed
- not crazy... your statement is as regurgitated as the 'NRA' statement I supposedly just regurgitated... what about the family argument?PonyBoy
- HOw about you start pushing for MEN to be FATHERS again? Lean into that whole 'black lives matter' bullshit... imagine if those black kids had fathers...PonyBoy
- I guess you're right about the family thing. Family is the foundation of everything.Ben99
- ... that GAVE A FUCK... just imagine if we dumped the fucking HIP HOP lifestyles / stopped paying attention to what pop-culture is up to and started...PonyBoy
- So you will have a gun AND krav maga! You'll become INVINCIBLE! ;-)Ben99
- ... giving a fuck about our OWN sons and daughters / families and neighbors.PonyBoy
- I don't have a gun, Ben. :) I even sold my air-pellet hand gun. I'm not the gun-monger I just made myself out to be. I just 'get' why folks arm themselves...PonyBoy
- ... and have been seriously thinking about getting my wife and I armed given where we live.PonyBoy
- @ponyboys argument makes me never want to set foot in the states again... how fucked up can a society become?
No offense I have visited many, many timesfadein11 - and loved it everytime for so many reasons (NYC mainly) but jesus - Ponyboys argument is horrific... Rather than accept society is fucked Pony why not agreefadein11
- Ponyboy is right about the family, fatherhood and neighborhood community.yurimon
- something needs to be done? So confused but not American so probably always will be.fadein11
- Fade... have you noticed how prevalent and accepted it is to dress and act like you're a cast member of a Quentin Tarantino film over here? We have stopped...PonyBoy
- ... paying attention to the simple family foundation... we dress and act like the shit we see on tv (including the way we use / flaunt guns)...PonyBoy
- ... it should come to no surprise that we have the activity we do over here. We are DRIVEN by Pop-Culture.PonyBoy
- Fade!!! I'm BEGGING for change... you just don't need to take away our ability to 'attempt' to protect ourselves from our current situation.PonyBoy
- I've been saying this for years.yurimon
- I've been robbed MORE THAN ONCE just out wandering on foot... at gunpoint... I GET YOUR POINT!!!!!!! And to be clear - both robberies - I was fucked...PonyBoy
- ... and having a gun WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED ME. I couldn't just draw that shit and take my robbers out... I was fucked. :)PonyBoy
- Now... if I were upstairs in my room and heard something downstairs... both robbers would have been toast if I had a gun (which I don't)...PonyBoy
- ... but I'm also left to think about the many situations when folks are running for their lives in crowds—if only ONE person had a weapon... far less would die.PonyBoy
- I trust EVERYONE I know who owns a weapon to not take it out and just blow people away, btw... every gun owner I know is a solid good person that I trust.PonyBoy
- (this includes some of you that I know offline) :) YOu're good gun-owners... you don't act like assholes... you're responsible... this is the average gun owner.PonyBoy
- yuri... I know you've been saying this for years... and I've attempted to back you at times... but as you know it's not the easiest pursuit on this site...PonyBoy
- ... I've been on NT / QBN for 10+ years... I've always been outnumbered so I just back the fuck off. :) I love everyone here too much to fight...PonyBoy
- ... and I mean it when I use the word 'love'... I know a NUMBER of you offline and would be at your door the minute you asked for a friend (and vice versa)...PonyBoy
- ... I've prefrred to have (and keep) those relationships rather than fight on and offline... I much prefer design talk over death talk. :(PonyBoy
- Compare with other countries...Europe and Canada have just as much departure from "traditional family values" but not anywhere close to as much gun violence.yuekit
- Fair enough Pony - like I said its hard to understand when not in it... Never meant any offense. Just such a terrifying situation for such an advanced nation...fadein11
- It looks like there is no solution. And great point on Tarantino. Perhaps reality has become distorted, Reality is distorted over here also - but in differentfadein11
- ways I guess. I have been the victim of various crimes (multiple muggins, burglary) but not sure a gun would help me as I doubt I could pull the trigger unlessfadein11
- to literally save a family member. But it seems many are happy to fire in the US (and I am not talking about these crazed lunatics) over far less.fadein11
- Yep - Pony - I much prefer design talk also... this place has become a v.different animal over the last year or so... have a good weekend.fadein11
- Look at all of the dimwitted mindless fucks in one place buying guns, LMAO.utopian
- jtb260
New! Just in time for Christmas! Child Sized Bullet Proof Blankets.
- Somalia, Sierra Leone, USAdrgs
- $$Ben99
- This actually made me sick.jtb26
- America can suck a dick. I'm getting out of here.jtb26
- not America?monospaced
- Come to Canada. We have lots of space, free health care and not many gunz.Ben99
- Thanks for the invite Ben99. You also have cold weather, I think I'm bound for Oz. or New Zealand.jtb26
- Nice Prayer Matsutopian
- Yeah winter is a pain in large cities. I hate it.Ben99
- Stahp it Ben! No everyone! Don't come to Canada! We have Devils gay marriage!pango
- cool, comes in "shoot me" redscarabin
- Are you kidding....I was walking around Victoria in my tee this afternoon!see_thru
- Montréal is super cold on winterBen99
- Like no other place.pango
- Our internet sucks, you don't wanna come down here.inteliboy
- Cellphone sucks too. Highest mobile monthly bill average In the world.pango
- yurimon-3
I found this dudes site in my research on incentives in society, how people make choices. relevant to the discussion below.
and just finished watching this show.
- utopian3
Who owns guns in America? White men, mostly.
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/4/984…- Politically Correct OTD thread.yurimon
- But if people don't have guns, then only criminals do. You see how criminals have overrun every other western country, right?ETM
- Hahaha ETMnb
- I hate when people compare the USA to baby countries like Canada, Switzerland, Norway, Finland, UK, etc. they should compare state by country to be fair.robotron3k
- emt, nytimes editorial confirmed this in their editorial rant then downplayed it in lame way.yurimon
- utopian1
Man hugged girl, 7, at soccer practice, then killed her
Emma Watson Nowling was shot and killed by a man police say is a family friend. Timothy Nelson Obeshaw shot the girl after she finished soccer practice. Before he turned the gun on himself, he also shot her mother. She is in serious condition.
- This kind of shit tips me over the edge - plough the earth with salt, burn everything, and leave it for the ants and cockroaches.face_melter
- but guns?2002
- Ben99-2
What really happens when you get shot
- Ben99-5
Michele Fiore is a Republican politician
- look at how they are protecting themselves. they are ready.Ben99
- mental illness in the form of a Christmas cardRamanisky2
- just add some liquor and bad presents and the family will make front page news!!robotron3k
