Trayvon Martin
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- monkeyshine0
I once had an altercation with a security guard with a wanna-be but for whatever reason couldn't be cop complex. He grabbed my arm. I pushed him. I'm glad he didn't shoot me. Imagine what they would have unearthed:
- caught carried pot seeds in 3rd grade. Suspended for 3 days
- driven home by cops in 5th grade after breaking into an abandoned house and setting up day camp with my friends (and spanked upon delivery to my mom)
- suspended in 6th grade for fighting
- suspended in 7th grade for skipping school
- almost kicked out of a private school for leaving grounds with a boyI'm sure I would have deserved to get shot by the power tripping security guard.
- randommail0
Hey Cygnus,
It doesn't matter if Trayvon was a gangster thug who was convicted in the past of murder, rape, infanticide, cannibalism, theft, insider-trading, drug trafficking, and killing kittens.This is about Zimmerman. Not the dead kid.
- < this is truthMorning_star
- zimmerman was a victim. the dead young man was recently discharged for drugsomg
- That makes Zimmerman the victim automatically? You were there? Shit, call the police you ass!ETM
- ETM - Trayvon beat Zimmerman's face to a bloody mess across the sidewalk. Zimmerman is a victim here.omg
- omg0
The victim was getting his bloody face smashed into the sidewalk by a violent young man who was recently discharged from school for drugs. The brave victim volunteered himself in a dangerous neighborhood to keep watch. Neighborhood friends loved and honored his bravery, and found himself defending himself against a drug dealer who didn't take kind and respect to the watchman, and viciously attacked him. Luckily the watchman had a gun and opened fire, otherwise could have suffered his own death as Trayvon had the power of Black Panthers on his side.
- and Skittles!albums
- If only the cops had told Zimmerman not to continue following or to approach... oh wait.ETM
- The cops wanted to protect Zimmerman. But Zimmerman was too braveomg
- one mans bravery is anothers head up ass idiocy.monkeyshine
- Morning_star0
Ah, good logic there OMG.
He did drugs so he should die, right ?- No dieing was something that happened after he violently attacked a watchman. Drugs was only his recreationomg
- Trayvon's drug addiction would probably kill himself sooner or later.omg
- no one has ever said he even identified himself as a "watchman"locustsloth
- Zimmerman was a respected neighborhood hero.omg
- cotton0
We should just blame it all on race so we can have a political agenda along with the media sensationalization (is that a word?), inciting anger in black people and widening the racial gap.
Leave some facts out too so we can further the cause.
- mg330
I just wish they would stop showing the photo of him as a 12 year old. I know I sound like I'm accepting that this is being tried in the media, but showing a photo of him at that age forces people to think of him as a defenseless, sweet little kid, rather than a young adult much larger, taller, and perhaps more capable of physical harm either in an offensive or defensive situation.
I know that sounds crazy... but I hope you know what I mean. My point is, whatever happened in that portion of time that we don't know about was not committed by a 12 year child. Whatever happened or didn't happen was committed by a a person five years older than the photo that's being shown.
- sherm0
Photoshop battle?
- prophetone0
random thought - i have to wonder how all of the online discussion surrounding this, incl. this thread, will affect a trial situation, if it comes to that. talk about a tainted jury pool...
- Rodney King all over again.waterhouse
- yea cuz nobody beat Rodney king within an inch of his life, and there was no tape (proof) either.sherm
- those cops convicted themselves.sherm
- 4040
Heres my 2 cents
Heres the real problem both sides have something to be pissed about.
Trayvon was walking home with only skittles and an arizona not particularly paraphernalia that would show he was going to cause issues. But ultimately he acted immaturely and attacked Zimmerman because Zimmerman was following him.
Zimmerman on the other hand was just doing his job and reported what he thought was suspicious behavior from Trayvon. He followed Trayvon which he was told not to do which resulted in Trayvon acting defensively and ultimately attacking Zimmerman.
Trayvon gave Zimmerman a beat down and Zimmerman had to pull out his gun and defend himself.
Both parties were wrong.
- mostly assumptionsprophetone
- assumptions? Thats whats in the reports.404
- intentions, actions and what was going through their minds in those moments are in there?prophetone
- please enlighten me and show me where I stray from the reports.404
- it's a question, relax, and it still stands, was every aspect documented? because that's the fog of this...prophetone
- that will be the problem here, in the end. it's happening now, everywhere. misinformation, assumptions, etc.prophetone
- The problem with Zimmerman's account is it came from Zimmerman. Who wouldn't spin the truth if they knew they were in the wrong?locustsloth
- in the wrong?locustsloth
- exactly, other than the horrible result, how does anyone know what transpired, aside from that guy.prophetone
- first it wasn't a question because you didn't have a question mark. 2nd I was just wondering where i strayed no need to tell me to relax :)404
- need to tell me to relax :)404
- 3rd post is my question... i was simply asking, not telling. i am not pretending to enlighten anybody. i seek the truth. zen.prophetone
- sherm0
- We all look a like. Hard to distinguish.Glitterati_Duane
- ohhhhhsnap0
- I am all over this one as well. This is just getting blatant. Innocent but shot in the head. now dead.sherm
- This most likely happens every day but in light of Trayvon and Rahmarley... they are coming to light.ohhhhhsnap
- Hear of CeCe McDonalds case? Only reason she isn't getting light is because she's a transwoman.ohhhhhsnap
- futuremongolian0
One of the stranger aspects of this event is how the pro-Treyvon (or pro-justice) factions have been insisting that Zimmerman is white when he's clearly Latino. I just don't get the need for that, it's bizarre and somewhat terrifying.
- and by white I mean "cracker" white.futuremongolian
- zimmerman is latino but there are many folks who operate as WHITE who have "light skinned privilege" in this country.ohhhhhsnap
- Everyone is out to get black people.cotton
- cotton, i disagree with that. there are some amazing allies out there doing work WITH us.ohhhhhsnap
- DrBombay0
Zimmerman is armed, Trayvon is not. Zimmerman shoots Trayvon. Zimmerman should go to prison. Am I missing anything?
- yeah the whole bit about the law.futuremongolian
- The law is retarded.DrBombay
- you're missing the idea of self defense asking that people should be making rules before a fight.omg
- self defense? from what? he basically stalked this guy.monkeyshine
- DrBombay0
Does the name "Stand Your Ground" law strike anyone else as being nothing more than macho redneck shit?
- Its origins have served victims of home invasions well.waterhouse
- Seems to me that a confrontation on the street and a situation in your home are a bit different.DrBombay
- most self defense law covers home or personal property but you can claim anywhere with this law2002
- futuremongolian0
The problem with these events is that when they reach a certain velocity, the facts become irrelevant.
This killing got attention because it was a story of a white man hunting down and murdering an unarmed black boy, aggravated by the fact that the police didn't lay any charges.
Now we know Zimmerman isn't really "white". And the news today tells us that a witness saw Zimmerman being beaten. Also, when the police interviewed Zimmerman he was bleeding, which supports the witness's account.
But if indeed, any of this is true, will it matter?
- he said "fucking coons" and followed the kid after being told by police not to. that matters.colin_s
- yes, but if the witness's account is correct, then he was being viciously attacked and was defending himself.futuremongolian
- He should have used his fists against some string bean teenager. The kid weighed 140. The guy weighed 225-250.DrBombay
- lots more. Take him down in the street with your hands, tough guy.DrBombay
- DrBombay0
This whole armed citizens taking the law into their own hands business is fucking retarded. I have known a number of goofs that were auxiliary police officers. There was always a reason why these shitheels weren't actually cops. One person I knew used to wear handcuffs on the back belt loops of his pants all the time. Most often the only time these people were ever used was during parades and other community events when the actual cops needed more of a presence. He was a pussy that thought that impersonating a cop got him respect and made him tough. These are the types of people that do these neighborhood patrols in many cases. Gung ho dickheads.
This grown man can't subdue a 140 pound 6 foot tall teenager without a pistol? He belongs behind bars, he is a fucking menace more than some kid with a bag of skittles ever would be.