Trayvon Martin
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- randommail0
Zimmerman's eyes are way too close together. I don't trust guys who look like that. Plus he's a fatty.
- utopian0
If Zimmerman was black this would be a non-story!
- ArmandoEstrada0
If Zimmerman was black he wouldn't be asking a white kid what he was doing there, pursuing him and threatening him....
- He might have actually. He was a town watchman. We just don't know so dont assume he's racist.CygnusZero4
- lambsy0
Zimmerman's account of what happened:
- omg0
- CygnusZero40
I have to be honest, I'm not racist by any means. I don't look at every young black man as a criminal or a thug, but if I were appointed a town watchman or whatever the hell he was, and saw a hooked black guy walking around look at houses, I would probably want to look into it also.
The fact is it's burned into our brains how so many black kids are trouble makers. Many people are just brought up to assume that. It's irrelevant what he thought though.
He followed the guy which is not illegal, and given his position it sounds like something he was actually supposed to do. We know for a fact from a witness Traynon was attacking Zimmerman and Zimmerman was screaming for help. That can't be denied. What we don't know is who attacked first. And if there's no proof of that, Zimmerman will walk, as he should.
It may be impossible to prove whether he just killed a defenseless kid in cold blood, and if you cant prove that, sorry you cant put the guy in prison. It's not right.
- *hooded black guyCygnusZero4
- In my opinion, the screaming you hear on those tapes does not sound like Zimmerman it's sounds more like TreyvonRamanisky2
- anyone found any recordings of trayvon's voice?lambsy
- An eye witness trumps some tapes. The 13 year old said Zimmerman was screaming and CRYING for help.CygnusZero4
- you're unbelievable, Cygnus. Zimmerman was wrong. Period. Dumbass zealot. Yes, he should be in jail right now.monkeyshine
- im not a racist, but... (racist comments ALWAYS follow)
BonSeff - Fact it's burned into our brains ? is not a fact and not my brainBattleAxe
- omg0
Black Panthers post $10k reward for Zimmerman
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news…- Yeah we saw that, and everyone on Earth knows they are pieces of shit.CygnusZero4
- maybe we can round up a QBN posse and go after this delicious bountyomg
- youngdesigner0
It's true that he (Zimmerman) was just performing his official job as town watchman.
Maybe the problem lies in the use of a gun immediately after getting into an argument or even a fist fight. I'm sure many of us got into fights as kids or teenagers.
Is it really legitimate to shoot someone because you exchanged a few shoves or even a punch with them?
Seems to me that is what this case should really be about, and not about black discrimination or whatever which as Cygnus Zero said is somewhat understandable under the circumstance.
- You're right, racism is irrelevant here, but the black community sure likes to make a lot of noise.CygnusZero4
- Maybe you don't see the racist angle because you ARE one.jacklalane
- CygnusZero40
It doesnt sound like it was a shove and maybe a punch. Zimmerman was found bleeding from multiple places. Not injured enough to need serious medical assistance, but if I have a gun license and I am on my back being beaten, you actually do have the right to use lethal force to protect yourself.
There is also a report that this 13 year old witness saw Trayvon going for Zimmerman's gun. I don't know that as fact but I just read that today. If that's the case, then hell yeah I'd shoot him.
- dopepope0
I can't wait to see the Skittles commercial for this.
- ukit20
- Maybe that's justice enough for killing someone..ukit2
- He should hook up with Casey Anthony. Then in 4 years they'll have their own show.dopepope
- iI didn't know that
Zimmerman was a
cracka?utopian - He's not white. People are just idiots. Even on QBN. Amazing, right?CygnusZero4
- more of a tortilla, or half tortilla half cracker. Should market that, new zimmerman by doritos._niko
- this guy is probably screaming racism but he has no problem displaying this tshirt. its only racism if white people do it.404
- dopepope0
Kony who?
- lambsy0
which outcome do you guys like best:
A) zimmerman gets off and blacks riot
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B) Zimmerman charged with murder and blacks riot- Why would they riot if he was charged with murder?ukit2
- Is this a trick question?utopian
- they riot when a basketball team wins. this is more charged than that.lambsy
- Blacks like to riot. It's kind of standard issue.CygnusZero4
- They? this is where it all startsBattleAxe
- Josev0
From here: http://articles.orlandosentinel.…
"She (Angelo Corey, State Attorney) would not comment about any specific pieces of evidence, including what authorities have learned from a 16-year-old Miami girl who may have been on the phone with Trayvon as he and Zimmerman came face to face.
Benjamin Crump, one of the family's attorneys, told reporters last week that the girl told him she heard the two exchange words then a sound that she believed was Zimmerman pushing Trayvon."
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and from here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/…
"I heard someone crying — not boo-hoo crying, but scared or terrified or hurt maybe,” said Mary Cutcher, 31, who lives in the Retreat at Twin Lakes townhome community where the shooting occurred. “To me, it was a child.”
“This was not self-defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re hurting, you’re hurting.”
She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away, where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his hands pinning the shooting victim down.
“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ ” said Cutcher’s friend, Selma Mora Lamilla. “The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’ Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of: ‘Oh man, I messed up.’ ”
The women, who were the first on the scene, said they saw Zimmerman pacing back and forth.
“I know what I heard. I heard a cry and a shot,” Mora said. “If there was a fight, it did not happen here where the boy was shot. I would have heard it, as this all happened right outside my open window.”
- _niko0
This sounds like Yojimbo or something.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
- ETM0
The position is "Neighborhood WATCH". That is why the cops said not to engage. What training does he have to deal with any way the situation went? Does he have training? He also has a past of showing some degree of anger or control issues.
As I said before, had he just listened, and not had a chip on his shoulder, or agenda (as the police tapes somewhat demonstrate) or some vigilante mentality, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
But no, he said on the tape "they always get away with it". Get away with what? He wasn't caught breaking into a home or raping someone on the street. He was walking, looking 'suspicious'. Zimmerman had his mind made up when he approached.
- I think this makes the most sense of anything.mg33
- His record also shows that he has problems controlling himself (battery charge, restraining order)locustsloth
- youngdesigner0
He was Town Watchman and had been issued a gun. So he had at least some training/ experience.
Bottom line: we can't know what happened. Any one who claims they know is just guessing.
- Exactly. People are fucking idiots. That's all we've learned from this.CygnusZero4
- He was the "self-appointed" captain of an informal neighborhood watch. I dont think anyone issued him the gun. It was his personal weapon.Josev
- gun, it was his personal weapon.Josev
- Yeah, he wasn't issued anything. Where do you get your facts? Are you just making assumptions?ETM
- His personal weapon... that apparently most didn't know he even carried.ETM
- _niko0
if i'm worried someone is following me, then I see that person turn around and walk to his car, I don't approach him and ask if he's following me.
I don't think he would have turned and confronted Zimmerman if Zimmerman was leaving.
- BonSeff0
well if he was hired by the town, said town better expect a civil suit and shellout serious cash. better believe they are gonna distance themselves. from whati hear dude was 'self-appointed' so if he was ever paid a dollar, he is fucked in a civil suit.
- He wasn't hired by the town. He was a community volunteer.ETM
- utopian0
100SFA!