Adobe Muse....
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- exador1
ok...I was hoping everyone here would already be talking about this, but I guess I'll start the conversation....
who else has downloaded it?....anyone have any praise or crits of it yet?
seems like a logical thing for adobe to put out, as far as i can see..... just wondering what the rest of you think of this...
(a PM buddy of mine just chimed in at the office here imitating me saying 'i'm the creative director, and i NO LONGER NEED ANY OF YOU FUCKERS!'....only to come back a week later saying 'uhm...hey.....you guys know anything about this database stuff here? lol.....
- rizm0
no
- sureshot0
I thought this was about the band.
- detritus0
Such a product is long overdue, and even if it output decent code, I wouldn't worry about mine or anyone else here's job too much.
But, given the absolute shambolic mess that it spews out, my only worry now is having to fix a client's attempt to do it themself...
- monospaced0
I would use it except that it's subscription only: $15 (or $20) a month!
- Ah, so, it's a poor man's Dreamweaver designed to make you a poor man.CyBrainX
- good one! -CyBrainXalicetheblue
- well, that's $180 a year, not exactly cheapmonospaced
- not exactly expensive either...Amicus
- ETM0
Same old same old. People who would use this would likely never be clients anyway, or they will need help fixing their mess later.
- Horp0
Muse itself might not be the thing that puts all you out of work, but rest assured its coming, just like it came for typesetters, visualisers, paste-up artists, finished artists, repro houses etc etc.
There's no reason on each why the basics of web design can;t be codified into a drag and design package, and once achieved effectively, that can be built on.
Writings on the wall codemonkeys. Better start thinking about a career now before its too late.
- each = earthHorp
- unfortunatley most web front end guys are design graduates...kingsteven
- I get that you're prodding, but if not — web design/dev is about a heckuva lot more than translating an image to HTMLdetritus
- ...well, outside of the occasional HTML mailer that might need to be done *ahem*detritus
- People have been saying this since DW came out, and when CMS software came out etc.ETM
- kingsteven0
"you don't have to worry about what the css code is for background color"...
... it's "background-color"
isn't dreamweaver meant to do this shit?
- Isn't Dreamweaver meant to do anything this program is advertised to do?CyBrainX
- Is dreamweaver able to do HTML 5 now? I think that Muse is supposed to act like InDesign and Dreamweaver had a baby, then Dreamweaver had to get a caesarean.Pumpkin_baby
- Then dreamweaver had a caesarean, and now they aren't sleeping in the same bed.Pumpkin_baby
- i_monk0
Don't they own Dreamweaver now? Why create a second product line for the same purpose?
- Continuity0
This is like the cloud version of Contribute, isn't it?
- benfal990
WANT!
- benfal990
since iam not a coder, this is what I was looking for to build simple and cool websites
- benfal990
W4R3Z D0WNL04D
we will need to crack the bitch up to bypass that month to month thingy.
- ETM0
Anyone who calls a front-end developer a code monkey is not even clear on the job details. Front-end guys never use more than scripting and markup languages.
- Nor do we want to. Now back to your cubicle code monkey. I want to hear tap tap tap, not tap tap complain.Pumpkin_baby
- alicetheblue0
Not Responsive. Everything is fixed. Like an InDesign file.
- kerus0
This is almost as sweet as MS Word letting me make sweet sweet tables in my interwebs
- popfodders0
This is a crock of shit
- exador10
I've been chatting with the developers in my office here....the sentiment is pretty much what i've seen here. they looked at the code, chuckled a bit, and said they weren't terribly worried. However, all of them agreed it was a good idea. It'll provide a platform to whip together wireframes and mockups, walkthroughs etc a lot quicker, in some regards, than the methods we're currently using.....so we'll probably give it a shot on an upcoming project....
- boobs0
They keep making applications so that "non-designers" can build "attractive websites" without knowing "code." Dreamweaver, GoLive, WordPress, and a hundred others.
But the fact is, the hurdle to making an attractive website, is not really in knowing code, or in knowing the technical nuts-and-bolts of putting a site together. The hurdle is having some visual sensitivity and taste so that what you do make actually looks good.
It's like drawing: it's easy as pie to take care of the technical aspect. One gets a pencil, and makes some lines on paper. Every child can do it. But to do it well takes a lot of practice, thought, and application.
Same with playing piano: you just press the fucking buttons! What could be simpler? Well, hardly anyone applies themself enough to piano to learn a simple tune, let alone play something someone else would want to hear.
So again, it's trying to apply a technical solution when the problem is not, really, technical.
- <Knuckleberry
- on the flipside ,it's getting rid of the technical roadblocks so you can properly design a site.zarkonite