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  • ChrisKeegan0

    has anyone used it now? any good?
    And got any good examples using it cos a lot on there website are a bit dry.

  • ukit0

    "There's a reason why big video sites Vimeo, YouTube and others still have object tag for embed and sharing. iFrame just doesn't work and the proof is very simple. "

    Actually YouTube switched to using iframes months ago. Object based embedding still works on sites like this, but try clicking embed...it gives you an iframe by default.

  • Boz0

    and that's ironic because I can't share that video pretty anywhere else without Flash or using object embed code. That's what I was saying..

    iFrame is useless when it won't work on 90% of commercial and various online social and premium sites. So I end up switching back like every single time.

    • nowhere but a personal wordpress blog will work with iframe because everyone has iframes blocked with embeds.Boz
    • Silly Google/YouTube!ukit
    • loltgqt
  • identity0

    if the functionality is anything like their mark - goodluck...
    Should have hired a real branding agency

  • mcmillions0

    i was hoping for a hype williams thread :'(

  • instrmntl0

    JD isn't going to be happy with their choice in company names.

  • Aper0

    Dont believe it

  • monospaced0

    About time!

  • GeorgesII0

    another aviary,
    lets try it first before once again calling the death of flash

    • Flash is dead!!!
      *opens 2 advanced and weeps*
      Hombre_Lobo
  • GeorgesII0

    and it's probably called hype for a good reason

  • identity0

    Its on the app store - read some reviews on it yesterday. Like any first version, it's pretty incomplete - but people keep talking about it potential... Competition for Adobe, heaven forbid...

  • GeorgesII0

    ^
    but, but they left apple to make this,
    it must be good,
    didn't you READ, they left "Apple"

  • clearThoughts0

    LOL at their website and examples

  • fugged0

    Much like Flash, people are going to abuse it, make shitty sites, and then everyone will be all like, "HTML5 is crap," and, "HTML 5 sites aren't user friendly." etc, etc, etc...

    It's just another tool. Hopefully people will use it wisely, but probably not.

  • Not_Just_Another0

    Can someone just clarify something for me...? Which browsers accept HTML5 at the moment? Surely its only for the most modern browsers?

    I'm still having to create sites that will work in IE6/7 - so the thought of all the fancy things HTML5 can do are a little lost on me.

    • most new browser supports html5 to some extent. use http://www.modernizr… so html5 elements play nice with older browsersdijitaq
    • so its still a faff to implement anything cool that won't necessarily be viewable on older browsers...Not_Just_Another
    • I'm all for progress, but since most clients will probably want their sites to function the same across all browsers, it seems jumping on the HTMLK5 bandwagon might be a tad premature?Not_Just_Another
    • jumping on the HTML5 bandwagon might be a tad premature?Not_Just_Another
  • jadrian_uk0

    That's cool

  • Boz0

    I wish them good luck.. but basically they are building the same thing that everyone (including themselves) have been shitting about in regards to Flash..

    If they are trying to sell me that all that animation and stuff they'll be empowering basic and intermediate users to create will run flawlessly without any CPU lag and issues I have a bridge to sell you.

    From his interview, I would say he has one thing wrong "HTML5/JS/Canvas as it is is also not meant for mobile" and that's why Google and Apple and everyone else pushes native apps on the mobile devices because they know that JS/Canvas or CSS3 stuff even if hardware accelerated just doesn't cut it.

    The reality is that they are creating something we've already went through with Flash and FINALLY the performance issues, the GPU acceleration, the absolutely awful sites are behind us and Flash and Flash Builder have evolved beyond just a simple fancy pantsy animation tool.

    Hype is Flash 1.0 in relative terms and thanks to this I can bet you whatever money that you will be seeing some absolutely horrific things done in HTML5/JS with this tool. Even worse than Flash.

    I am almost positive that Adobe will offer AS3/Flash files to HTML5/JS/Canvas stuff before they can say version 2.0.

    We already have Jangaroo and PinacleCode that do AS3 to HTML5/JS.. all Adobe has to do is integrate it in Flash/Flash Builder and that's the end of Hype.

    As always, I'm not necessarily Flash or nothing.. I don't think anyone who knows me and read my posts can say that.. All I want is great tools and IDEs (like Flash/Flash Builder) and refined and beautiful OOP language like AS3. ECMAScript 5 looks like a good contender even though it's not really OOP but it has a lot of fixes that cause/caused issues with JS so far.

    If browsers can allow me to build HTML5 experiences with multi-channel sound, access to cameras and live streaming, polished JS/JQuery/whatever or a framework that emulates proper OOP practices, unified CSS3 styles and great tools, I have nothing against ditching Flash whatsoever. But anyone who's remotely realistic knows that this is not gonna happen for a loooooong time, if ever, and all the new fancy ECMAScript 5 and other stuff along with HTML5 won't be ready for prime time as long as you have IE6 which accounts for about 50% of the web at the moment.

    It's getting there but that's all moving at superbly slow pace. The only chance web standards/browsers have to really outmatch Flash in what it can do is NaCl, but that's not even begun really based on the presentation given about the future of web at Google I/O 2011.

    But, I don't have problem with these guys at all.. I wish them all the luck and hope they make a kick ass tool.

    • Pnnacle Code = Particle CodeBoz
    • agree with pretty much all of this apart from ie6 being 50% - its notfadein11
    • yeah I pulled that one out of the ass.. i think it's around 20-25% after quick glance at the numbers (but that's most likely in US), in the world it's much higher number.Boz
    • in US), on a worldwide level I'm pretty sure it's still pumping away.Boz
    • yup, just assume everyone else is on ie6... Boz loves making an ass of himselfAmicus
  • Boz0

    I wish them good luck.. but basically they are building the same thing that everyone (including themselves) have been shitting about in regards to Flash..

    If they are trying to sell me that all that animation and stuff they'll be empowering basic and intermediate users to create will run flawlessly without any CPU lag and issues I have a bridge to sell you.

    From his interview, I would say he has one thing wrong "HTML5/JS/Canvas as it is is also not meant for mobile" and that's why Google and Apple and everyone else pushes native apps on the mobile devices because they know that JS/Canvas or CSS3 stuff even if hardware accelerated just doesn't cut it.

    The reality is that they are creating something we've already went through with Flash and FINALLY the performance issues, the GPU acceleration, the absolutely awful sites are behind us and Flash and Flash Builder have evolved beyond just a simple fancy pantsy animation tool.

    Hype is Flash 1.0 in relative terms and thanks to this I can bet you whatever money that you will be seeing some absolutely horrific things done in HTML5/JS with this tool. Even worse than Flash.

    I am almost positive that Adobe will offer AS3/Flash files to HTML5/JS/Canvas stuff before they can say version 2.0.

    We already have Jangaroo and PinacleCode that do AS3 to HTML5/JS.. all Adobe has to do is integrate it in Flash/Flash Builder and that's the end of Hype.

    As always, I'm not necessarily Flash or nothing.. I don't think anyone who knows me and read my posts can say that.. All I want is great tools and IDEs (like Flash/Flash Builder) and refined and beautiful OOP language like AS3. ECMAScript 5 looks like a good contender even though it's not really OOP but it has a lot of fixes that cause/caused issues with JS so far.

    If browsers can allow me to build HTML5 experiences with multi-channel sound, access to cameras and live streaming, polished JS/JQuery/whatever or a framework that emulates proper OOP practices, unified CSS3 styles and great tools, I have nothing against ditching Flash whatsoever. But anyone who's remotely realistic knows that this is not gonna happen for a loooooong time, if ever, and all the new fancy ECMAScript 5 and other stuff along with HTML5 won't be ready for prime time as long as you have IE6 which accounts for about 50% of the web at the moment.

    It's getting there but that's all moving at superbly slow pace. The only chance web standards/browsers have to really outmatch Flash in what it can do is NaCl, but that's not even begun really based on the presentation given about the future of web at Google I/O 2011.

    But, I don't have problem with these guys at all.. I wish them all the luck and hope they make a kick ass tool.

    • ah shit, who's the mod here.. delete this extra post please, it double posted when I hit Broadcast.Boz
  • monospaced0

    You're totally right on this one Boz. It is pre-beta in a lot of ways and will be processor intensive as it is developed, just like Flash. The big difference is that it's not Flash, it's HTML5 and we don't even have to get into why that's significant.

    I also agree that by the time these guys have an application that's actually worth using that Adobe will have their tools in place and adopted by developers. I can't wait to see how it pans out, and I wish them all the luck and hope they make a kick ass tool as well.

  • moldero0

    awesome nav, reminds me of flash 10 years ago
    http://tumultco.com/hype/gallery…
    wtf? really? LOL
    http://tumultco.com/hype/gallery…
    amazing:
    http://tumultco.com/hype/gallery…

    its the future, and "progress" is running in reverse.