How much do I charge? 1919 Responses

Last post: 2 years, 1 month ago | Thread started: May 3, 11, 7:06 a.m.

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• Lustwaffe

  I was asked to do packaging design for a sneaker company. They ask me to do the shoebox and maybe a shopping bag.

  Never done shoeboxes or shoppingbags.
  How much do I charge them?

  May 3, 11, 7:06 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  How long will it take?

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:08 a.m. – Permalink

• Lustwaffe

  not sure yet. i will get details on this project after i give them an estimate.

  • You can't give them an estimate without the project details.– monospaced1/2

    end of thread.– jamesjohnston2/2

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:15 a.m. – Permalink

• set

  ^ ALERT ALERT

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:19 a.m. – Permalink

• dasmeteor

  IS THERE A CONTRACT ???

  • not yet– Lustwaffe

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:19 a.m. – Permalink

• flashbender

  "not sure yet. i will get details on this project after i give them an estimate."

  What in the what what now? To paraphrase monospaced - how on earth do you intend to make a meaningful estimate without knowing the details and scope of the project?

  Otherwise you are just saying numbers

  • They don't know what to budget.... How much for a house?!? Taj Mahal or shack?– vaxorcist

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:22 a.m. – Permalink

• Lustwaffe

  i guess you guys are right.
  Those guys are new and they have no idea what they want.
  They just keep asking "how much for a shoebox design?"
  hmm..

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:27 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  You can educate them. Let them know your process: the time involved in developing concepts/directions, their responsibilities as clients to provide timely content, feedback and decisions, the number of revisions you anticipate, and the hours you think each stage will consume. This process ensures a quality product and leaves nothing to the imagination. Then you can start talking about prices.

  • thanks!– Lustwaffe

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:38 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  Not to mention the box vendor, whether they'll be providing a die for the box form, proofing and what your role is in these areas. If they are asking you, they should have some answers.

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:39 a.m. – Permalink

• randommail

  How long is a piece of string?

  JK. But seriously, get as much info from the client as possible, and then report back here for any advice.

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:46 a.m. – Permalink

• Mister2

  I would hire a designer who has worked on shoe box / bag design. You hire them as your contractor / partner, you learn by working together, you make a little money.

  • < true, this is the best advice– randommail1/3

    yeah, but i dont know anyone with shoebox design experience.– Lustwaffe2/3

    . . . yet– timeless3/3

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:52 a.m. – Permalink

• jimbojones

  $100.
  that guy who did the nike logo charged $50, but we live in tough times, so...

  • lol. no thanks. times change.– Lustwaffe1/5

    it was a woman :)– BaskerviIle2/5

    it was a chick? you need to charge at least $200 then.– jimbojones3/5

    If it was woman, she was over payed.– set4/5

    LOL– moldero5/5

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 7:57 a.m. – Permalink

• orrinward

  I think one or two of the regular QBNers have done shoebox stuff. I swear I've seen someone posting some cool stuff. If they pop up, get them on board.

  • yeah if anyone has experience, let me know.– Lustwaffe

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 8:01 a.m. – Permalink

• SrSamaurai

  tell them what your hourly rate is and how long you think it will take to do the box

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 8:03 a.m. – Permalink

• e-pill

  contact doesnotexist.. http://www.qbn.com/doesnotexist/… this is what he does for his career. also if you need help with contracts and the like check your email im sending you a packet of contracts, proposals, time sheets, invoices, work orders.. and so much more. 52 pages more to be exact.

  best of luck on this gig.

  • thanks a lot!
    – Lustwaffe1/10

    thanks to epill for arming designers with the AIGA forms. keep it classy, eddy.– dMullins2/10

    im not sending out the AIGA forms. these are more special.– e-pill3/10

    besides anyone can get the AIGA forms off their site -most ppl dont even know of them.– e-pill4/10

    let alone to think they should use a contract til after its too late.– e-pill5/10

    i like the AIGA forms for contracts as everything is totally spelled out for you.– e-pill6/10

    their proposals are also nice.
    very professional, or at least its a starting point.– e-pill7/10

    this file, i have has so many more forms and proposals, then what is offered from AIGA.– e-pill8/10

    wooooord– doesnotexist9/10

    k– dMullins10/10

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 8:19 a.m. – Permalink

• frost215

  hey e-pill do u mind sharing those docs my way?

  • sure check your email.– e-pill

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 11:29 a.m. – Permalink

• SeriousFreelancing

  an-ass-and-an-arm

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 11:30 a.m. – Permalink

• nthkl

  $50 an hour. Estimate how long it'll take you. Include every step.

  • include sleep– moldero1/2

    you can also offer them the $120/hr sleep excluded rate.– moldero2/2

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 11:44 a.m. – Permalink

• PonyBoy

  "You can educate them"...
  You can try that... but right off the bat it sounds like this client doesn't understand Project Management.

  If they're approaching you asking you to quote money but aren't giving you any scope in writing (meaning they have no project management)... ... run away, friend...

  ... are they going to pay you for the free education? :)

  Project Management exists in all businesses... if you come across a business that's just 'winging it'... ... I've found it best to just move on... and most importantly - DO NOT LET THEM SUCKER YOU into being their Project Manager... ... unless they're willing to pay for that of course. :)

  • just trying to help...– monospaced1/3

    wasn't being negative toward you, mono... ... just pointing out that he's being asked to design... not project manage– PonyBoy2/3

    word– monospaced3/3

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 11:58 a.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  are you creating a new box or using their old one?

  • new one
    – Lustwaffe

  

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  Dog-earMay 3, 11, 1:35 p.m. – Permalink