what cms are compatible with citrix?
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- hans_glib
The wife's place wants a cms for their website that iwork with/with citrix. Anyone out there in Land o'Qbn know of any such trickery?
- vaxorcist0
Hmm....
Citrix is an IT dept thing, possibly unrelated to anything website/CMS-like, and/or possibly a total stranglehold that means you have to buy some massively consulta-saurus expensive middleware CMS....
Need much more info to get any real idea...
- hans_glib0
You're right about the IT dept thing, it's the IT mob who are insisting on the compatibility. They use it for their intranet - can it not be made to work for an extranet as well? Or should she tell them to go fuck themselves?
- vaxorcist0
personally, I'd tell them to fuck themselves and run it externally, on a standard platform using a CMS that's commonly used by designers.
You could possibly use dotNetNuke or Ektron, both winblows CMS's, but I'd run like the wind from the IT dept....
- That's a really good way to lose business. This seems to me that they are a decent-sized company.dMullins
- Personally, I wouldn't turn down a big project because they don't wanna use my shitty WP or EE CMS.dMullins
- It surprises me sometimes how very little most designers know about C-class website architecture.dMullins
- The final site should be more than just informational. What if they want the website to tie into their MS Great Plains acct? Sharepoint? Etc.dMullins
- Sharepoint? Etc?dMullins
- Not talking down to anyone in particular, just trying to raise some points.dMullins
- you're right in a way... no insult taken... I got burned out by a string of huge projectsvaxorcist
- marketing dept wanted 6 week deadlines, IT dept wouldn't start till 6 months of meetings...vaxorcist
- lots of people got burned in the middle due to management not allowing cross-communicationvaxorcist
- Sounds exactly like every C-class project I've ever been on. Too many cooks in the kitchen trying to tell the real chefs what to do.dMullins
- to do.dMullins
- but if you like the heat in the kitchen, there's $$$ to be made, see accenture,etc...vaxorcist
- dMullins0
I don't see any problem with the IT department wanting things to be compatible for their CRM/RO's/etc. tools. The problem is they need to be the ones that make the recommendation for which CMS to use. Otherwise, you could end up making a critically-bad choice in the end due to a possible lack of knowledge of the bigger picture on how things work on their end.
- true..... just make sure marketing knows this will be more involved than they thinkvaxorcist
- lukus_W20
Compatible in what way?
Citrix provides a remote desktop afaik .. do they want to embed a remote desktop view into the site?
- vaxorcist0
Intranet vs public website may require IT dept to redo a lot of router stuff to host a public website that won't allow anyone to hack into their private network.... and that they'll probably make a huge fuss over, after saying it's easy in a meeting but taking 6 weeks to do it... maybe not, but that was my experience...
which is why hosting externally, where the infrastructure already exists is a huge way to dodge needless complication...
- 6 months, not 6 weeks... 6 weeks was what VP of marketing demanded, 6 months was IT's response.vaxorcist
- vaxorcist0
dmullins may be right.... I'm not a consultant kind of person anymore, having been burned out...
if you're a designer who can find a non-burned-out former IT developer/consultant, this could be very lucrative.
- dMullins0
I think the question I would be interested in is "what are they actually using Citrix to do right now and in the future?"
- dMullins0
I would check with Sitecore (~$50k) and Kentico5 (~$7-25k+) and see if they are compatible. If not, they will likely be able to point you in a good direction.
- vaxorcist0
Ask if they need the website to communicate with corporate data info in realtime, or if it's a stand-alone, brochure-like website, or if it can be updated once a week or so?
- hans_glib0
Thanks for all your help, I will pass all this on.
- vaxorcist0
Note that if you get RFP's from firms, make sure they know the citrix data integration objectives clearly, otherwise you may get random guesses that benefit nobody.