UFO of the day

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  • scarabin2

  • set-2

    • that couldn't possibly be a tiny dust mote, not at all.detritus
    • Yea, but an UNIDENTIFIED FLYING DUST MOTE!dopepope
    • swamp gasutopian
    • interesting footage I suppose. shame all these videos come with the annoying narratives and sub-x-files branding etcFax_Benson
    • I take it you didn't watch the whole video Detritus...set
    • Are they all dust? lolset
    • hehe... fax touched on something that drives me nuts. YT channels w/their stupid DYI branding... kills my desire to give this any credence... but I shall watch!PonyBoy
    • I'm going with dust... even w/the one that angles hard and changes direction... especially that one. Why u-turn like that? Alien forget to close the garage?PonyBoy
    • i want to believested
    • that boomerang towards the end was obviously a pigeon.Gnash
    • Why would you have the camera on at all then? This is stupid.cannonball1978
    • Aye, dust. Particles that small in that sort of ionized environment are going to move, esp. with respect to macro-scale objects.detritus
    • The ISS is travelling through a cloud of particles and generating static build up - it's really not surprising that dust motes exhibit seemingly odd behaviour.detritus
    • Sadly, it's less surprising that people would rather jump at the extraordinary than consider things a little more. Any real aliens around are smirking at us.detritus
    • when I saw the first mote move I actually [mutedly-] joyously exclaimed my surprise, wonder and enjoyment of it. It's beautiful, amazing, awe-inspiring! ...detritus
    • ... it's just not some fucking alien and his moving his glove around isn't evidence of some conspiracy. sorry. i kind of wish it were too, but this here is not.detritus
    • imho, obv. what the fuck do i know?detritus
    • Fuck all apparently. Some might be dust sure... but all? lol to that.set
    • You really don't do yourself any favours 'loling' at stuff as you do, it comes across as hollow condescension and, ultimately, a little bit stupid.detritus
    • Sorry old chap, I just can't help but lol at the assertion that every single one is dust. That's what's ultimately a bit stupid.set
    • Are these dust as well?

      https://www.youtube.…
      set
    • I just think the whole 'it's all dust (swamp gas, ball lightening, whatever) is just as stupid as 'it's all aliens'.set
    • I thought we were discussing < this video? in this video, Yes, it's pretty evident to me that ALL the moving specks there are simply motes of dust.detritus
    • You always maintain the same assertion, set, but here's the thing — so do I. I consider each example on a case by case basis.detritus
    • eg—I've still no good explanation about that Chilean thing, despite reading a few 'FLIR Experts' right off anything other than mundane solutions like planes, &cdetritus
    • 'LOLing' at someone about something that you can't possibly know or confirm yourself in any absolute sense is, intellectually and pragmatically, foolish.detritus
    • and as much as I completely think < these are just dust.. I still couch my absolutism and admit that perhaps I can't know.
      Do you do the same? No. Odd.
      detritus
    • Of course I do. I've always said it's just as bad to outright say aliens 100% don't exist as it is to say they 100% do.set
    • To say it's all dust is far more absolute and pragmatically foolish than me saying I don't know what they are...set
    • ?set
    • Do you really think the one at 8:00 is dust?set
    • I'm really not watching it again—I already gave the cunt two views yesterday— but there were no entities in that video that I didn't think simply dust motes.detritus
    • And it's not foolish to see dust and proclaim it as such — unfortunately here, Occam's razor asks that you rationalise your position, as it is the unlikelier.detritus
    • IT'S JUST FUCKING DUST, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? FUCKING HELL! *breathes* There, better now.detritus
    • Click on 8:00 and tell me that's dust you raging shit

      x
      set
    • k I win then. They're all aliens. Told you.set
    • http://i.imgur.com/P…Gnash
    • I'm sorry, i still see dust. beautiful motes of electrically and — perhaps! — gravitationally looping dust. Not sure if ISS is massy enough to sway specks?detritus
    • @set - I'd love to believe, I really would.
      @detritus - solid line of argument - respect.
      Q: Why would an astronaut conceal alien life? What's the end game?
      BuddhaHat
    • And if he's out there performing an installation or maintenance or something, why would he be focusing on anything other than his work?BuddhaHat
    • Live feed gets cuts, camera moves out of the way, hands in front of camera, etc... NASAutopian
    • I'm with Set on this one. No way is all that dust. I am not saying it is aliens though. But you only have to spend half an hour researching this stuff to knowfadein11
    • NASA has a long history of this kind of thing - particularly stopping live feeds when shit appears they cannot explain. Too many reliable witnesses and mindfadein11
    • blowing cases (mass sightings, airline pilot sightings, military sightings etc.) to say there is not something v.strange going on. Not to mention numerous coverfadein11
    • ups, lifelong death threats, deathbed confessions from people who nothing to gain but ridicule. Yep - it's an interesting subject for sure.fadein11
    • who have*fadein11
    • For sureset
    • Just because you don't understand why NASA would hide alien life, doesn't mean it must not be true. Odd argument, really.
      @Buddha
      set
    • Not that odd @set, it goes back to Occam's razor (courtesy of @detritus), there's no current alternative explanation based on evidence. All that's on camera..BuddhaHat
    • are moving objects; to draw any further conclusions, especially without a keen understanding of the contents space that aren't based on speculation...BuddhaHat
    • could be seen as drawing a fairly long bow, no? OR.... Aliens.BuddhaHat
    • I never said it was aliens, apart from when being sarcastic. I said they're not all dust.set
    • You're assuming based on what... Me suggesting we don't know what some of it is?set
    • Respectfully I'd say those of us without advanced degrees in aerospace engineering or experience in outer space can't intelligently speculate on the objects.BuddhaHat
    • And until such time those objects are definitively identified with evidence, yes, we don't know what a LOT of it is. It's a big place out there.BuddhaHat
    • Addition: unless someone wants to post a pdf of their thesis on the behaviour of objects in space relative to the gravity of a space station, & how this affectsBuddhaHat
    • visual perception on NASA's camera feeds, lenses and signal transmissions. That's what I'm getting at. Without being a cunt, of course.BuddhaHat
    • Right after you post a thesis explaining how relativistic-busting FTL travel could possibly work ;)detritus
    • Human-created dust in low orbit is a knowm problem, as is static build up in low orbit, as is gravity, perhaps making paint flecks and dust motes small moons..detritus
    • CCDs on the ISS are set to pick out hard to discern light, which makes close objects look bright and weird. The footage in <that video isn't IR, it's just lightdetritus
    • but, more bluntly - we see what we want to see, and when it's placed in a OMG UFO context, our interpretation comes prepped.detritus
    • lol detritus, I have written no such thesis sorry old chum, not exactly in my wheelhouse... hence my repeated uncertainty :)BuddhaHat
    • I'm not much of a viewer of these kind of videos, I was really surprised at the conclusions drawn from glove & camera movements on the feed. Seems strange to meBuddhaHat
    • I respect the intelligent input, and agree that some of it can certainly be explained away by dust etc. I'm just saying that to pass it all off...set
    • ... as space dust as if you know it to be true is just as bonkers, or at least almost as bonkers, as saying it's all aliens.set
    • lolmonospaced
    • Mono is part of the small brain crew that can't debate but instead ridicule.... Embarrassingset
    • that is simply not true ... do you like being wrong SO much that you have to make up shit about someone you don't know?monospaced
    • I make one "lol" at your 70-comment discussion with Buddha, and you insult me? Get a grip.monospaced
    • "the small brain crew that can't debate but instead ridicule" set, this is the first thing you do when someone doesn't join you in upvoting your posts.scarabin
    • +1 despite all your unnecessary personal attacksscarabin
    • Again you confuse insulting someone with ridiculing an idea worth discussing...set
    • and again you confuse not discussing with not sharing your viewpoint.scarabin
    • Eh?set
    • if he is in fact attempting to cover it up i'm guessing it may be some secret military thing. dunno why they'd be filming knowing that shit is around thoughscarabin
  • Gnash1

    • hey, day i was born.. bonzaautoflavour
    • ^ you are the oneGnash
    • You're 6 years older than meMaaku
    • Single global civilization? Why do you need to say that? Like, we know we suck but we're trying? There's no chance for a single global civ. we all know that.Beeswax
    • He's talking about NWOMaaku
    • Jimmy was a believerGnash
  • Maaku-1

    If UFOs are man-made, why aren't people more interested in this shit? I'd love to know more about being able to get to the moon in 5 mins. Aren't people curious?!!?

    • UFOs aren't man made that's why it's "unidentified flying object"sted
    • ^ yeah but that's one of the strongest arguments against alien ships, so just saying if that's the case, then... <<Maaku
    • UFO's are UFO's.inteliboy
    • It's absolutely and utterly obvious that humans have technology and probably crafts that the masses are not aware of yet.set
    • Indeed Set. 100%.fadein11
    • It's obvious that things we don't definitively know exist, in fact exist. Without evidence. Am I interpreting that correctly? Hopefully there'll be a Trump leakBuddhaHat
    • Or, in the absence of tangible evidence, detailed, peer-reviewed scientific research?BuddhaHat
    • Do you think every single technology project is public knowledge? Because if yes, you're a cunt.set
    • You don't think the US, Russian etc militaries are working on secret aircraft projects? Of course they are.set
    • That's a given...set
    • LOL @ 'cunt' comment, hahaha! I 'believe' that some space agencies do have some things we don't know about. That doesn't constitute proof.BuddhaHat
    • This is feeling a bit chicken-and-egg to me... declaring existence without proof, or denying existence without proof. What do both positions lack? Proof.BuddhaHat
    • Well my stance is that regardless of proof, we all know that militaries are developing technology under wraps and so some ufos are probably human in originset
    • I'd quicker believe we had some super futuristic secret gov projects before crying "aliens are here!" Agree there absolutely must be.monospaced
    • I'd even guess that most UFOs are either man made or just a misinterpretation of something natural. I wish aliens were visiting though. Would be rad.monospaced
    • don't crush our speilbergian ET dreams set.inteliboy
    • While I don't disagree that there are likely secret future tech projects, ehT about them being top secret with no evidence is "utterly obvious?"monospaced
    • Derpset
    • If the average public, look up and see something they are not familiar with, they think it's a UFO. It could well be a drone etc..fruitsalad
    • Those untouched natural tribes in the Amazon.. they think a 747 is a UFO, they think it's a bird god.fruitsalad
    • and they're right, because it's unidentifiedmonospaced
    • @fruitshoots - you do know there have been sightings from very credible witnesses (i.e. pilots, military, police etc. who are trained to observe) going wayfadein11
    • back before drones were even a minor itch in your daddy's left bollock?fadein11
    • Wow. Sightings! How interesting. People seeing shit and telling their stories. So credible.monospaced
    • They send people to life in prison for murder based on eye witness reports. There are millions of sightings, including many government and military officialsset
    • To rubbish that off like you just did is simply unintelligent.set
    • okaymonospaced
    • (actually has no bearing on my intelligence, just my opinion on what I intelligently decide for myself is believable)monospaced
    • It's unintelligentset
    • De-intelligentset
    • Nintendolligentset
    • No it isn't. intelligence and ones susceptibility to inferring conspiracy are not related in the slightest. You of all people must concede thismonospaced
  • utopian0
  • fadein112

  • monospaced0

    • timelinefadein11
    • ?monospaced
    • "officers do something about that" lolSoulFly
    • Surely you know what timeline means by now mono. This is super old and has been posted a few times... Still funny thoughset
    • I hadn't seen it.monospaced
  • slappy-1

    I wouldnt call myself a believer but every now and then something scientific pops up and makes me rethink my stance.

    Like this, a billion earths in our galaxy alone.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/n…

    • R * Fp * Ne * Fl * Fi * Fc * L = NGnash
    • original Drake - from the R to the Fp to the Ne to the Fl... oh fuck that.fadein11
  • utopian1

    • 4K vid on all smartphones yet Nasa still on highly compressed VGA... hmmmm, wonder why?fadein11
    • some random debris floating past + spooky music? Aliens, obviously.inteliboy
    • inteliboy - you do know random debris doesn't float past in space? otherwise orbiting the earth would be near impossible and shuttles/space stations/satellitesfadein11
    • would be destroyed regularly.fadein11
    • random debris...dumbest thing I heard all weekend, thanks for the laugh.utopian
    • lol at NASA using compressed vga as some alien coverup... funniest shit I've heard since trumps last tweetmonospaced
    • http://www.geosats.c…scarabin
    • ^ not availablebklyndroobeki
    • http://www.geosats.c…scarabin
    • we're shitting all over space like we are our oceansscarabin
    • lol at laughing at it possibly being debris, not at "UFOS pass International Space Station"inteliboy
    • that's crazy scar - so sadbklyndroobeki
    • lol mono - I was being silly but still find it weird they don't have access to better cameras.fadein11
    • @scar - yep fully aware amount of space debris - but trust me they know where it is in the most part and all orbits are arranged around it. It doesn't justfadein11
    • float around the ISS - that would be v.dangerous - have you seen Gravity?fadein11
    • know where most of it is*fadein11
    • Haven't we just been here? If 'have you seen gravity?' is your scientific basis, you're fucked in this argument.detritus
    • There's a reason that old tech has been used in space, and there are reasons that low Earth orbit, around the ISS, isn't comparable to deep space.detritus
    • fadein, obviously they have access to better camerasmonospaced
    • They stream live high def video all day from the iss, of earth and equipment. Black and white shit video is useful by conspiracy theorists mostly.monospaced
    • SeagulsIanbolton
    • On second look... definitely Swamp gas!utopian
    • @mono - exactly - If they have good cameras why do they still use this 1970's CCTV equipment - seems a bit silly - are they trying to be hipster retro?fadein11
    • @fadein11, they don't, they stream with high-def all day everyday and have for years... this is probably a shit camera for a good reasonmonospaced
    • there's a full documentary on space debris, i think it was on netflix, short but decentmoldero
  • ok_not_ok-2

  • ok_not_ok0

  • Gnash1

    In October of 1978 a UFO appeared in Clarenville, Newfoundland and stayed around for approximately two hours witnessed by several residence a RCMP officer.

    https://www.nighttimepodcast.com…

  • fadein110

    Following on from Set's Paul Hellyer post here is another talk by him and one of his best imho.

    He put A LOT on the line to say what he did and was definitely one of the main people on the UFO scene (along with Richard Dolan) who got me very interested in the subject.

    For those who are put off by the extreme ideas being posed Richard Dolan is a great guy to watch as he tackles it v.much from a scholarly, historical evidence based angle.

    But this is well worth a watch if you haven't seen:

    • Don't be put off by the silly image either.fadein11
    • Go to the beginning obviously - I hate it when YT does that.fadein11
    • Why is there this silly image in there in the first place?monospaced
    • Because A silly UFO channel on Youtube shared the video from somewhere else - duh.fadein11
    • they chose the image.fadein11
    • and they chose the stupid title - you don't use youtube a lot do you?fadein11
    • I use YouTube a ton ... it's just that you said to not be put off by this image ... which BEGS to ask why it's there if you want it to be taken seriously.monospaced
    • It's a silly image, I agree 100% with you, and that contrasts with "scholarly, historical evidence based angle." :)monospaced
    • but maybe you're more concerned with finding ways to belittle me than anything else, and if so, have your little partymonospaced
    • I love that image. Makes me want to watch this.dopepope
    • I want to know how they communicate with the aliens, and what they said.inteliboy
    • thanks for sharing btw - amazing vidinteliboy
    • @mono - belittle you? not at all? And Richard Dolan is the scholar - this is Paul Hellyer - sorry for the confusion.fadein11
    • @mono - there are a miliion UFO channels on YouTube and a lot of them share the same content - I chose to share one with a silly image and title - that is allfadein11
    • I was saying but thought it was obvious that is why it had that image. Not belittling me at all - if anything I think its prob the reverse.fadein11
    • you*fadein11
    • Next time I will take longer to find a share of a talk sans silly image/titlefadein11
    • ...monospaced
  • sarahfailin1

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/… New book proves reported sightings of UFOs are on the rise. Just data on sightings by state and time of year.

    • always be worried when sightings go up - something big is about to happen.fadein11
    • a lot of sightings in the 70's and 80's... what happened then?inteliboy
    • also - how about just 1 single person have a camera on them that's not a potato.inteliboy
  • Maaku1

    ^ Here's a few reasons why:

    • By now, we should have reversed engineered and master alien spaceships from the Roswall crash.

    • Or, we were able to get our hands on nazis ufo's technology and master that as well.

    • Or there are too many pranksters with drones these days.

    • or they are preparing us for the disclosure (better late than never).


    • how long do you think it would take for davinci to reverse engineer an iphone?Gnash
    • agree about the dronesGnash
    • how do you know we haven't reverse engineered craft and what on Earth makes you think those in control would share such world changing technology with the restfadein11
    • of us? It would kind of spell the end of the big monopolies of planet Earth.fadein11
    • agree with gnash about agreeing about the drones and davincisarahfailin
    • heard once, if we can get read of the oil etc, wed only have to work like 2-3 days as price would drop. Imaging what people could do with their time.mugwart
    • I get your davinci ref but let say we fast forward to 1980, the PC are about to be the next big thing, which means we know more than back in 1947Maaku
    • I think that by 2017, we should be able to at least turn on the damn spaceship, lolMaaku
    • The Davinci/iPhone comparison is way off. It would be more like a Chimpanzee trying to reverse engineering the iPhone.Morning_star
    • ^ How do you know that? We have no idea how far ahead they may or may not be. All comparisons are off.set
    • ... and they've had at least 60 yearsset
    • Firstly, Wittgensteins 'Understanding a Lion'. Secondly, the Fermi Paradox gives me no reason to believe they've ever got here.Morning_star
    • Moring dropping philosophy bombs :)Gnash
    • *morningGnash
    • Fermi paradox only applies if you already don't believe they haven't got here. It is not a proof that they haven't.fadein11
    • Every ancient culture on planet earth tells us that they were here, interacting with them. Personally I think it's more ridiculous to believe that every...set
    • ...culture made up fantasies, all extremely similar, often describing things they weren't supposed to know, and were so important to them that they inscribed...set
    • ..them in their most sacred temples, statues and scriptures. I think it's more bonkers to believe that was all fantasy, personally.set
    • The myth of the Great Flood appears first in the tales of Gilgamesh aropund 3000BC. Cultures communicate, humans talk. Subsequently the myth appears almost...Morning_star
    • ...universally in every culture and religion since then. Now which is more likely: humans consider the Flood Myth as a good metaphor for renewal and adopt...Morning_star
    • ... the myth into different cultural 'lore', or, Aliens visited different cultures and continents over thousands of years communicating some knowledge but...Morning_star
    • There's a vast amount of evidence that there was a world wide flood after the last ice age, though....set
    • Which corresponds to the time that plato put atlantis being destroyed at.set
    • What's more likely... 'myths' revered by every culture on earth, or them simply telling factual stories.... ?set
    • ...not a whole lot of useful stuff.

      My point being that just to get to the planet earth from a 'close' solar system is fucking difficult, coupled with the...
      Morning_star
    • ...issue of communication you'd think their would be undeniable evidence and there just isn't any.Morning_star
    • I fear that the size of the comments section is not a great place for this debate. Happy to continue however my last point wasn't finished before you replied.Morning_star
    • FWIW i think the flood myth is entirely based in fact. I also think a good tale is a good tale and thus percolates many different cultures. Just because...Morning_star
    • ...cultures talk about the same stuff doesn't mean Aliens have visited. I would be very interested in links to some good speculation about Ancient Aliens.Morning_star
    • I didn't say stuff. I said every ancient culture speaks of aliens visiting them so I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that maybe they did.set
    • The mahabharata speaks of the gods fighting in the sky. Flying around in ships. Shooting lasers at each other. Nuclear bombs. Guided missiles. Other high techset
    • The dogon tribe speaks of gods coming down from space and teaching them. They were told they came from sirius b which can't be seen with the naked eyeset
    • Literally every culture has stories like this. To rubbish every single one off as fantasy is simply ridiculousset
    • I don't disagree that your analysis that most early cultures had experiences with mysterious entities that came from the sky. However, coming to the...Morning_star
    • ...conclusion that we have been visited by Aliens is too much of a leap. It's one unlikely interpretation of many. The Dogon accounts of Sirius B are..Morning_star
    • ...misleading and could be because of European influence from the 1920s and 30s. There is very little knowledge of their claims about Sirius B outside...Morning_star
    • ..a very small group of Dogon. All of which were exposed to lots of European and American anthropologists in the early 20th Century.Morning_star
  • utopian4

    Trump's Reviled Hotline for "Criminal Aliens" Flooded with Reports of UFOs

    'Just tried to call to report the theft of my tractor by space cadets—on hold for 8 minutes had to abandon, will call again!'

    http://www.newsweek.com/ice-voic…

  • set-1

    • light wrapping around the wires look wrong.mugwart
    • Trolls with drones?ApeRobot
    • I have a horrible feeling this is CG, though it it cant be drones as I doubt they could carry the weight for the lights & power to generate that power.mugwart
    • https://www.youtube.…inteliboy
    • fucking cool - defiantly going to try and do this. that said, this is not what is in the video.mugwart
    • Yea love that drone project. The footage take, especially at 3:20, is absolutely stunning.set
    • absolutely stunning!monospaced
    • wow that video is amazingkona
  • ApeRobot0

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  • Maaku-2

    • Watch it on 4kMaaku
    • ^ don't tell me what to doGnash
    • is it a ufo for ants?Gnash
    • http://www.qbn.com/t…mugwart
    • It's actually what happens when swamp gas takes form and turns into space debris. Must be man made.Maaku
    • I didn't realise bugs or birds flying close to a lens = UFO.inteliboy
    • frustrating, for every legitimate piece of UFO info, there are literary thousands of bullshit videos like this.inteliboy
    • It's more frustrating when thousands of bs videos will make you jump to the conclusion that it's a bird, space debris, gas swamp, etc, etc...Maaku
    • Not saying this is real, you might be right, but you have to admit people in general will jump to the conclusion that something is fake.Maaku