Crowdsourcing from the 'client' viewpoint 3030 Responses

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• comicsans

  I used quotes because the term 'john' might be more fitting.

  http://thomvest.com/blog.html?fb…

  Feb 4, 11, 9:54 a.m. – Permalink

• lukus_W2

  Needs brettbashing imo.

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 9:56 a.m. – Permalink

• brandelec

  oh look a comment field

  • +– moldero1/2

    <– akrok2/2

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 9:59 a.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  nice, they use orange cause they are cheap-o-s.

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 11:11 a.m. – Permalink

• MSTRPLN

  "I wouldn’t skimp in this area as there is a clear correlation between the amount of the award and the quality and number of designs you will receive. You can also rest easy knowing that most crowdsourcing sites have a 100% money back guarantee if you don’t like the results."

  WOW!

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 11:37 a.m. – Permalink

• brandelec

  "When you think about what you get from a crowdsourcing contest, you realize how powerful this new trend really is. For a minimal amount you are able to tap the creative abilities and talents of a multitude of people across the world. Why pay one designer 10 times more for a product you may not like? You may also end up materially affecting someone’s life – some of our design submissions came from developing nations where $2,500 means a great deal. The one big drawback is that it is a time-consuming endeavor, and to manage a good contest takes a decent amount of planning and focus. Trust us though, it’s worth it."

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 11:42 a.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  i just posted my comment there.

  • i hope my point gets across and not lost in bad english. :-)– akrok

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 11:54 a.m. – Permalink

• Josev

  It's pointless to argue with these people and the comments usually end up making designers look unprofessional. I'm not sure how to combat this, but trying engage people who are unable to see that this is exploitation isn't going to work.

  • yes– monkeyshine

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:16 p.m. – Permalink

• Josev

  People within our profession are partially to blame, if there weren't 415 needy people this wouldn't be a problem. There's just as much ignorance within the design profession (about business, long term sustainability, etc.) as there is outside of it.

  • Maybe "needy" wasnt the best desciption, I'm sure there are many different reasons why the designers are participating.– Josev1/2

    True– pillhead2/2

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:19 p.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  ^
  true. it's kinda like talking to a wall. won't be much of a conversation.

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:34 p.m. – Permalink

• polyestercorp

  It's the "100% money back guarantee if you don’t like the results." that I think is the biggest issue. It creates a belief in clients that not using what was created means not having to pay for it even when working with more established designers. I've only had one client (years ago) not pay and they used that line based on their experience from crowd sourcing.

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:47 p.m. – Permalink

• 74LEO

  haah haah one worked Lehman Bros. another Goldman Ball Sachs . What the fuck? Dean of the U.S. Marketing Communication College at the U.S. State Department. Fuck lets just call them all crooks!

  • Exactly, look at their values. They're not going to respect creative people. Part of this is a cultural problem.– Josev1/3

    They work for companies that are in the business of exploiting.– Josev2/3

    "worked for"
    – Josev3/3

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:49 p.m. – Permalink

• moldero

  bias crap site, they keep deleting my comment

  • wonder what you said.– akrok1/4

    "die ass fuckers" something like that– moldero2/4

    ah they left it this time "you get what you pay for"– moldero3/4

    hah.– akrok4/4

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:53 p.m. – Permalink

• pillhead

  Crowd sourcing is just a sad situation for all of us trying to make a living from design. Maybe someone should make a Crowd sourcing for marketing and business management and see how they like to be put on a stick.

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 12:58 p.m. – Permalink

• monNom

  Meanwhile he spent 3 weeks running around trying to generate interest and wading through 400+ designs. I wonder how much that lost productivity cost him?

  • "trust us" it's worth it. - they said.– akrok1/4

    "Trust us, we've got nothing better to do"
    – monNom2/4

    lol.
    – akrok3/4

    they have to tell us to "trust them" that's a bad sign, right there.– akrok4/4

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 1:51 p.m. – Permalink

• Josev

  The site looks like a blog template, unfortunately they're not sophisticated enough to see the difference.

  • Dylan pointed that out. i think, so too.– akrok

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 2:11 p.m. – Permalink

• pr2

  We used crowsourcing job looking for illustrators, we had a few dozens beautifly sketched background that we needed to turn into full color images... The pay was decent (you would get paid per image) so we had high hopes... Until we started getting spamed by an avalanche of untalented hacks. I mean it was so bad we had to find someone local... Trust me you don't want to see what some of those "illustrators" from India are capable of.

  The experience taught us at:
  a.) talent costs money
  b.) even if you pay decent wages - people in the creative fields are awfully lazy
  c.) you need clear communication and strict supervisions (i would never attempt anything bigger then a logo - maybe - without ability to see the people in person)

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 2:33 p.m. – Permalink

• Fantrom

  The comment I just posted there should be flagged/deleted shortly:

  Ha! HA! HA! Exactly.

  Rename this article:

  "How To Sell A Chump a $35 Themeforest Template... and Have Them Think They Got a $25,000 Website for $3,000"

  • LOL– __TM1/5

    BRILLIANT!– randommail2/5

    < YES!– akrok3/5

    I know a few people whose business model is exactly that!– vaxorcist4/5

    'cept if you can do that for <$3000 you're probably not a design studio. i'd say they got their money's worth.– kingsteven5/5

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 2:52 p.m. – Permalink

• sublocked

  Funny.....

  

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  Dog-earFeb 4, 11, 3:35 p.m. – Permalink

• raf

  Designers react to the word 'crowdsourcing' like vampires to holy water. Here's a rare voice of reason on the topic from Ko Nakatsu—a designer:

  http://lo13.com/attitude/2010/12…

  • sorry, but that's a load of horseshit– Fax_Benson1/6

    Let crowdsourcing be, we need bad cheap design for clients to learn they need to hire pros. I have no beef with it.– raf2/6

    fair enough. just saying that the article is gibberish– Fax_Benson3/6

    he would take mediocre - meaning no one cares over bad - meaning people would talk about how bad it is = word of mount any day? This guy is more clueless then the cupcake store.– pr24/6

    of mouth any day? This guy is more clueless then the cupcake store.– pr25/6

    How the heck did Raf even find this article. hahaha. It's written with an 19 year old's comprehension of business.– randommail6/6

  

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  Dog-earFeb 5, 11, 5:28 a.m. – Permalink

• comicsans

  The trouble is that everyone is looking for a good deal and many imagine that anything which can be bought is a commodity. Ask them if they would choose a medical specialist on that basis and many would say "yes", consider how laser eye surgery is peddled for instance.

  

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  Dog-earFeb 5, 11, 6:43 a.m. – Permalink