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- Dodecahedron0
oil prices rise and no demand is lost at all...therefore oil wins again
- same with the BP spillDodecahedron
- ifnthe initial post wasnt about the bp spill, isnt it a bit premature?ephix
- obviously they are related issuesDodecahedron
- kona0
- sigg0
Face it people, humans are dependent on oil.
And to place blame, even jokingly on American's and our SUVs is a dead giveaway of a true ignoramus.
- <american ducking blame againDodecahedron
- but america is the worldephix
- We haqve no choice. no mag lev, no solar, electric, all biodegradable materials.74LEO
- bliznutty0
"and i would CYCLE that fucking 2 miles if there wasn't a damn freeway sitting in the way. build cities correctly!" – iCanHasQBN
you're excuse not to bike to work is typical and it stinks.. blame, blame, blame. and why would you move 35 miles to start up an engine twice a day to drive 2 miles across a freeway? was this move really a 'fight the oil industry' or 'my convenience' move? oh wait, "if the city were just built correctly" <-- hilarious :D - i work with people that bike 10+ miles into work... like whoa, huh? hahaha
- Do you work for Exxon Mobile?
You should get a job as a lobbyist for them, or maybe as their spokesperson.utopian - yes, if the city was built correctly, with pedestrians and cyclists in mind, i COULD get to work by bike.iCanHasQBN
- it is physically impossible to get across unless you are in a car. what part of that don't you understand?iCanHasQBN
- btw, i cycle 25 miles every morning for fitness. +80 on the weekends. your implication that i'm lazy is preposterous.iCanHasQBN
- Do you work for Exxon Mobile?
- VikingKingEleven0
Thank god one man on this board has common sense and hidden talents to find unknown — inspiring comic book covers.
- VikingKingEleven0
I am confused? Is America the only country that uses oil?
- iCanHasQBN0
Just a thought... but I wouldn't be surprised if the automobile and oil companies actually bribe city planners (any higher-up gov't officials who oversee the writing of codes for how developers can build in a particular city) so that they'll write those codes to FAVOR the sprawling of cities.
Because the more we sprawl, the more car-dependent we become, the more oil we use, the happier oil companies are. And what WE'RE left with are strictly-coded, lifeless, soulless, income-segregated suburbs, a false sense of security, polluted air, and the trampling of our natural surrounding areas. Smile (fakely), you're living the "American dream".... likely in a community that's been named after what had to be bulldozed to create it (Sycamore Bend, Roseview Field, Spruce Country Hills, Pinewood Meadows, etc.). We think we have so much "freedom" in the USA, but we VERY rarely have any other options but to have to use cars. That's not living free.
I didn't mean to divert the topic, but the root of the problem IS sprawl. It's directly connected to our oil dependecy, and responsible for much of it. It's all in the fucking planning codes. It's how we're building our cities. The majority of them are unsustainable if we continue in this current fashion. If you build a city, a civilization, incorrectly, there will be consequences.
- "just a thought"... ahh lol. nevermind. god that was long, for qbn.iCanHasQBN
- I just mailed you, BTW.Continuity
- You diverted your own topicephix
- i meant the topic of this oil spill.iCanHasQBN
- CALLES0
Oil sheen spreading from Gulf platform explosion
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gu…
- Continuity0
@sigg
Look, no one's arguing we've engineered modern civilisations to be dependant on a certain resource. And I will be the first one to admit I enjoy the benefits of that resource, from my MacBook Pro right on down to the plasticky bits on my French coffee press.
Dependency, however, should _not_ exclude moderation, and should not equal excess. Do you _need_ an SUV? No. Do you _need_ every single one of Apple's new products every quarter? No. Do we _need_ to waste untold hundreds of millions of litres on shipping crap quality good from China, when there are whole countries (like the United States) whose manufacutring and local business has been literally decimated? Absolutely not.
So it's incumbent upon us - as the primary consumer and beneficiaries of oil and its products - to see where we can make changes so that we not only slow down our consumption of a finite resource, but also see where we can innovate to eliminate its use altogether.
This is the _real_ crux of the issue.
- benfal990
- some americans like myself choose to drive these http://tinyurl.com/2… - just sayin'jmilligan
- prophet0
one day we will look back on all this terrible earth management, and laugh. we'll be all like "wow, we were such idiots! that was such a nice planet. this one's cool though."
- bliznutty0
people are mostly fucking hypocrites. face it the world isn't perfect when you confront reality. here they were born roughly 30 years ago complaining about the world and their 'dependence' they've inherited from their ancestors. they sit around all day using oil-based products whining about the very same products - and wishing for a better world.. where the environment is clean, the air is clean, their grandchildren are healthy, the products are eco-friendly, everyone gets along, everyone eats, nobody fights, everybody is equal. now wouldn't that be great? and since the world isn't this way - then bash America i guess?!? single it out as the only country with an evil disease called money.. it makes it easy for the mind to accept.. without looking in the mirror - it just makes it easy to BASH AMERICA when it is just the world you can't accept.. the world is ugly and you are too.. what are your grandchildren gonna say about you? you WERE using oil weren't you? did you hippie out and live in the woods? no you didn't.. and even hippies use oil.. everyone does
- how was the march on the weekend?callitropsis
- All right, then, fair enough. What do you suggest the solution to the problem is, then?Continuity
- use oil, but use it responsibly. why should an american use 6.2 times as much oil as a european? GLUTTONYiCanHasQBN
- Don't think we're all hypocrites. i sold my house 35 miles away from work so that i could have a 2 mile commute.iCanHasQBN
- and i would CYCLE that fucking 2 miles if there wasn't a damn freeway sitting in the way. build cities correctly!iCanHasQBN
- right on bliznutty!kona
- bliznutty0
and i hate to do it again but..
"Just a thought... but I wouldn't be surprised if the automobile and oil companies actually bribe city planners (any higher-up gov't officials who oversee the writing of codes for how developers can build in a particular city) so that they'll write those codes to FAVOR the sprawling of cities." - iCanHasQBN
DUDE!! you need to get with the program. you are like clueless to how the world works aren't you? literally, wake up in time and are like.. "Uhhh, i wouldn't be surprised if things actually worked in favor of industry" blah blah and ha ha. do you know what a monopoly is or how big industry works or even have a clue?
and why wouldn't social city planners adhere to the auto industry? there is alot of land in america, cars are convenient and affordable, are returned as ROI if driving to a job. its just the case that we are at where we are today through an industrial stronghold over our economy, the wicked political tricks of those industries, and the natural growth of our society.
someday your grandchildren are going to be pissed at you for building computers and "programs" that automate their entire life.. but you don't give a fuck now do you?
- Dodecahedron0
there's too much blaming normal indiivduals, who are basically faced with a small group of choices, and not enough blaming huge INTERNATIONAL faceless corporations that make wasteful products and exploit everything for their own sake... not to mention the people running these things.
- +1iCanHasQBN
- <<Continuity
- hey ICanHas, why did you +1 this post when you just blamed oil probs on American Gluttony?bliznutty
- both are the problem. americans feel entitled to act irresponsibly, and corporations will be corporations.iCanHasQBN
- bliznutty0
"Don't think we're all hypocrites. i sold my house 35 miles away from work so that i could have a 2 mile commute." – iCanHasQBN
bwahahahaaa
- oh yeah? and what are you doing to help?iCanHasQBN
- i skated to work this morning.. you're hilarious thoughbliznutty
- well good for you... seriously. but how you can criticize someone for using less oil and polluting less is beyond me.iCanHasQBN
- CALLES0
I had a oil shake this morning to start up my day.... it was delish
- was that before or after you pushed a homeless man in front of a bus?iCanHasQBN