Poster Crit
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- pango0
"The red frame is meant to give it a punchy graphic feel + it represents the Bud colours. Justifying the grain, I would say it gives the image a sense of its creation and certainly separates it from 99% of high-speed photography that you find on flickr."
ok sure. red is budweiser's colour. but would anyone drink red beer? and gosh the noise. it's making it look very old and grungy and dirty. i just lost my appetite to eat or drink anything. there is a reason why everyone use high speed studio shot. it looks clean it looks fresh it seems like it would taste good. And generally you would want to avoid B/W photo when doing food and drinks.
you are thinking standing out too much. stop trying to be original and start making a good poster.what is your approach? what is your concept?
i suggest you start over from the beginning. and ditch the photo if it's not working and get a new one.- "i just lost my appetite to eat or drink anything."...sounds like the strong negative reaction I'm trying to provoke.PeterPancake
- disagree about avoiding b+w photos with food and drink, but i guess that's really not what this thread is about.bjladams
- : / well i didn't know he was trying to not sell the product. but yes no b/w or the colour of purple, gray. it makes people think of expired food.pango
- food. and i'd say only 1/ 20 of the product out there would use b/w and they generally don't do so good.pango
- i would say that this is due to poor photography, not lack of colour. i sell quite a bit of b+w restaurant propaganda. -most due use colour though.bjladams
- do use colour though.bjladams
- pango0
your photo is consider a high-speed photography that you find on flickr as well. just poor quality.
- PeterPancake0
You're put off the beer/the brand by the poster. That's exactly the response I'm trying to craft. Not a generic polished flickr image (with a shiny table, are you serious?).
The points I want to make:
- Challenge and offend a corporate brand
- Create an image that evokes the simple visuals of Warhol's pop art. Remind us about consumerism and the types of products it creates. But, whilst Warhol presented his images of mass consumption for example to highlight the egalitarian nature of a product:"What's great about this country is that America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca Cola, and you know that the President drinks Coca Cola, Liz Taylor drinks Coca Cola, and just think, you can drink Coca Cola, too...coke is good."
I wanted to juxtapose and challenge consumerism and create a negative Warhol, if you like. That's why the beer is being shattered, the water is red, the image is generally offensive. It's not meant to slick, it's not meant to be perfectly formed. If I wanted to print a polished shot, I would have evolved this one, with a bit more work needed in the set-up:
- ahhhh you should have said that earlier. my suggestions were as if i were to sell that product. not do to opposite.pango
- Miesfan0
sorry you've arrive thirty or forty years later...
Learn, here a few:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh…
and btw, what is create a negative Warhol?- "negative Warhol" in the sense that he presented consumer products as a force for good, me the oppositePeterPancake
- ItalianStallion0
Seriously, I don't get it.
Maybe it's my fault but, I don't get it.
- PeterPancake0
@Miesfan, thanks for the links. I had not heard of John Heartfield before. As with his work, prehaps the introduction of other imagery, and the creation of a photmontage would create a more meaningful image.
And yes, Barbara Kruger was a definite source of inspiration for the combination of the red and the B&W, grainy image. Although, in this case the red represents the product too. (I was trying to think of her name in some of my previos comments.)
- eDissideNT0
cool)))
- eDissideNT0
cool)))
- zenmasterfoo0
i think what people are generally saying here is you can do better that this. If you're going for an art school project look, you've nailed it.
- skref0
Look, Sig has done the hard work for you, just print that out and get paid. Fucks sake.
- Jimbo820
Where can I get one?
- 4040
- flashbender0
needs more swiss design
or lolcats
- 23kon0
"I wanted to juxtapose and challenge consumerism and create a negative Warhol, if you like. "
So, you're trying to do something clever but wanting the help of others on here of how to do so??!
OK, so even if you do some up with something clever/unique where would be the satisfaction of knowing that it isnt 100% your own idea?
Do your OWN thing dude!
Photo I took about 16 years ago!
- Interesting image, nice textures. What's the shadow though?PeterPancake
- it's a hand....Amicus
- OSFA0
- Needs more blond-girl-holding-p... http://tinyurl.com/2…PeterPancake
- nice camel toe, but she isn't my type.Amicus
- oh my!tymeframe
- JSK0
"I wanted to juxtapose and challenge consumerism and create a negative Warhol, if you like. "
Dont ask for crit. Artists are confident on their own work. If you think you need to ask for crit, I think you are not going anywhere. Designers ask for crit as they are blinded by approval. Artist revere approval from no one except art it self.
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- PeterPancake0
I think this thread has run its course, so here are a few closing words, highlighting some important points:
- @zenmasterfoo, I do believe I could do better, yes (and thanks), but of course that would involve more investment of my time and effort. As I said, this poster is a one off to be sold to a friend for little more than the printing cost and I think the level I'm pitching it at and even the level he’s expecting (or even wants) is what you've said I have achieved, that of an art school project.
-@23kon and JSK, I totally agree with your sentiment that I should be presenting art, with a confidence for art's sake, and for the crit->improve cycle, as is generally more associated with a design piece, (at least on forums like this,) like you said. BUT, I was interested to see what would happen, and to be honest, the art by committee that has resulted is if nothing, as far as I know, an original way to produce art. Granted, it could be more serious. Surely a social age needs socially created art??
Thanks. Any further comments are welcome, as always.