Copyright Question 1414 Responses

Last post: 2 years, 10 months ago | Thread started: Jul 7, 10, 5:58 a.m.

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• Atkinson

  I bought a camera in a junk shop. The camera had a film in, I had it processed and I want to print the images as a limited run book. Is that legal In the UK?

  Jul 7, 10, 5:58 a.m. – Permalink

• _me_

  its not illegal... the "owner" would have to prove in a court that it in someway infringed their coptright to them, the possibility of anyform of defamation of character, loss of earnings etc.etc...

  the best thing to do would be to get legal advice any print a statement at the beginning of the book.

  sounds good tho. love finding old film....

  • *should have spellchecked that - but you get what i mean...– _me_

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6 a.m. – Permalink

• kalkal

  I'm pretty sure you need to be able to prove that you were the person who created the work in question.

  Without the film, even if someone brings out the soliciters on your ass, what evidence that the work in question is in fact theirs do they have?

  You have the film!

  • the fact that his/her spouse, relatives or even themself is in the shots may help– ckentish

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6 a.m. – Permalink

• detritus

  erm.

  Interesting one.

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6 a.m. – Permalink

• Atkinson

  Yeah, am I not the owner though, having paid for them?

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6:01 a.m. – Permalink

• detritus

  Guess it'd depend upon the history of how the camera ended up in the junk shop - at the very worst, culpability might be the junk shop owner's - you bought in good faith. Therefore you own the contents outright, without contract, therefore you possess copyright.

  or not.

  • not.– ribit1/2

    but it sounds like fair use to me.– ribit2/2

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6:03 a.m. – Permalink

• kalkal

  Depends how old the film is too, copyright only lasts for so long

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6:05 a.m. – Permalink

• Atkinson

  it lasts until 40 years after the death of the creator I think.

  • 70– bjladams1/2

    in the u.s.– bjladams2/2

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6:06 a.m. – Permalink

• kalkal

  Well, are there people wearing country hats, or are there groovy dancing chicks on the photos?

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6:07 a.m. – Permalink

• miesvan

  It seems the beginning of a novel by Paul Auster...

  • seems like the beginning of the bible!– _me_1/2

    hahahhaha– miesvan2/2

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 6:07 a.m. – Permalink

• Kiino

  It's all fun & glory until it's discovered the camera was violently stolen right from the hands of David Bailey's daughter/son/niece/nephew, then sold to yer "junk" shop.

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 8:30 a.m. – Permalink

• Atkinson

  Funny that, I bought David Bailey's hands from the same shop

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 8:56 a.m. – Permalink

• BH26

  Probably better off gaining inspiration from found photos and shooting your own work.
  Go buy some dated film and start from there. That way you know you're in the clear, and some copyright case doesn't get thrown at you down the road. "Hey Aunt Flo!, I saw a photo of you in a book"
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  • defeats the object of a found photo book– Atkinson

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 9:15 a.m. – Permalink

• ItTango

  It's your presentation of the work that is most important, i.e. you're not claiming these images as a showing of your photo work, it's a presentation of found objects. Museums do this frequently. Old, unclaimed photographs turn up everywhere.

  Aside from posting pics on the internetz, there's really no way to identify the real owner. I think you'll be fine - I'd love to see them.
  Good luck.

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 9:21 a.m. – Permalink

• pressplay

  KesselsKramer once published a book with pictures they found on a flea market. Its called "In almost every picture"... Maybe you should ask them, I‘m sure they did some research on the legal issues
  http://www.kesselskramerpublishi…
  

  

  • were these a long time ago? or from a former-communist country without copyright laws?– vaxorcist1/2

    1956 to 68– pressplay2/2

  

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  Dog-earJul 7, 10, 9:23 a.m. – Permalink