Your Freedom (UK)

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  • detritus

    http://yourfreedom.hmg.gov.uk/

    Get involved with the governmental process; Have your say on the laws and controls you find unnecessary or in need of review...

  • drgz0

    SMS votes

    Lets do it

  • lukus_W0

    The idea that the people of Britain could influence the way the government is run, terrifies me.

    • Hmm, don't get me wrong - the idea of a true democracy terrifies me, too. This is just audience participation...detritus
    • ...presumably there are multiple tiers of oversight and due diligence between the proles and their masters.detritus
    • Yep, this is Xfactor politics ... hopefully we'll get a TV programme too.lukus_W
    • ooh, ooh - and a Facebook App! - "Click LIKE to go to war with Belgium"detritus
    • Yes! .. eurovision results will never be the same again..lukus_W
    • haha, totally agree with you both. having our say is great, but the retarded masses will say the wrong thing!Hombre_Lobo
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  • lukus_W0

    Gah... there are a lot of duplicate ideas: this one has more votes...

    http://yourfreedom.hmg.gov.uk/re…

  • lowimpakt0

    This is a bad idea that won't work.

    It defies the real life complexity of policy making and it still 100% maintains the "state as leader" relationship with citizens.

    It lacks design thinking in the sense that it doesn't properly engage people in the design and development of the public services they interact with.

    It will be a case of tell us what you think and we'll come up with the best solution that we had in mind already.

  • drgz0

    It is not new, but this is the future of politics

    Think of all traditional expert-edited encyclopedias on the internet before 2001. Then Wikipedia came, Youtube etc.
    The equivalent "user-generated politics", when the responsibility of well-being of a community is passed on to the end users, and each person is directly involved.

    There is hole in the asphalt near your home? Create an "incident" on an government-run website, donate a small amount of money with an SMS etc. When people in your neighborhood have raised enough money, a team of workers comes and fixes it. Low taxing otherwise.

    There are some weaknesses as this form of government still requires strong moderation. If for example the juridicial system and penalties were to be decided by voting and a community-ruled process, you would immediately have public hangings etc.

    Also, this assumes that people are willing to do deliberate work and make small sacrifices for the sake of others. Surely no one would just give their money away, this is only possible if people strongly associate themselves with each other, bonded to the place you live in, ie. that you have a community of like-minded, which would be extra-hard on outsiders criminals, people who refuse to work, but also immigrants.

    All of this gives rise to different forgotten taboos like national socialism, which in spite of its bad name is in fact the secret of small, wholesome homogeneous nations like Sweden, Norway and Finland.

    UK and America are pirate wharfs of random people coming and leaving all the time. These countries live by few principles: freedom, competition, man is a wolf to his fellow man and the most murderous motto ever invented in the history of mankind:
    "This is your problem".

    True socialism in UK and its extension USA is impossible. By true socialism I don't mean equal distribution of goods + equal distribution of work (people are forced to work)...
    But when each man will live for his fellow man.
    The future is matriarchal, cyber-punk, primitive proto-communism with free internet, public hangings and tantric rituals.

    The principle will not be born in UK, it will be born in the geographical pivot of history, in the land of vast, radiant horizons the world knows nothing of, frozen in time, absolutely flat, with no landmarks whatsoever, so close, and yet more exotic and unexplored to the western man than islands of Honduras....

    Everything returns to the Heartland

    • That might begin to make sense if man wasn't a littoral simian.detritus
    • Your purity of race heartland sign off, that is.detritus
    • nothing to do with race, the heartland is home to 160 native peoplesdrgz
    • Despite your specific contrasting against "UK and America .. pirate wharfs of random people"?detritus
    • like the monkeys of gibraltar...miesvan
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