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  • xcarlx

    "Come to Toronto, for work or pleasure, and enjoy having your civil liberties trampled and your right to free expression stifled. Avail yourself of our hospitality in a crowded detention pen, with free stale buns and water when (or if) your hosts get around to it. Partake of an invigorating massage, courtesy of police officers wielding truncheons. The best part – there’s no charge! Except that seems to mean the cops will pick you up, hold you, then let you go without ever following through criminal charges or prosecution, suggesting they had nothing on you in the first place."
    http://www.ctv.ca/generic/genera…

    • this really makes me sad...sequoia
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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 5:48 p.m. – Permalink
  • Andrew_D

    Unfortunately, police are always in a damned if do and damned if you don't situation. People were screaming mad (myself included) that they weren't doing enough to curb the vandalism and criminal element when they were a block away. Then, when they decide to do something about it, people are screaming that they're doing too much. I guess they weren't able to find a happy medium.

    I for one think they did what they had to and there was always going to be backlash at their actions. The real people to blame are the ones that planned these summits in the downtown core. WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA??? Honestly, how could they not see this happening? Our government failed us, in serving their own needs instead of the people. (No surprise)

    This shit really stings me cause it was my neighbourhood that got fucked up and these criminals couldn't give two shits about my city and the place I call home.

    I'm sorry that people who were peacefully protesting got broken up, hurt or arrested, but when a cop tells me to move or be arrested, I'm getting the fuck out of there. But hey, what the fuck do I know...

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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7 p.m. – Permalink
  • pango

    is citizen arrest possible? would really like to pin those black block fuckers down. i really hate them.

    i wonder if they are going to show up in south korea next G8 G20.

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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7:21 p.m. – Permalink
  • xcarlx

    ^the police in this case did what they always do, sit back and watch when real violence is occurring, then go after the law abiding folks doing nothing but peacefully protesting.

    why? cause they are thugs.

    • *becausexcarlx1/3
      I agree, some are dicks, but I chatted with a few by my building and they were decent guys. It's a tough job, no doubt.Andrew_D2/3
      what i am against is the mentality they get that every one they see is a potential criminalxcarlx3/3
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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7:23 p.m. – Permalink
  • Centigrade

    I can't believe they smashed up some smaller shops, like steves. I mean thats an icon of toronto not capitalism.

    • well i cant get behind that.xcarlx1/2
      STEVE's wasn't smashed up.
      The heat from the burning police car cracked the glass.
      jacklalane2/2
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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7:39 p.m. – Permalink
  • xcarlx

    ^Pango,
    In Korea? Never!

    • compared to this, the kids in toronto were pussys.xcarlx1/3
      like a live action akira movieinteliboy2/3
      Isn't "pussy" the default state for kids in Toronto? I mean. Montreal is the tough town, no?TheBlueOne3/3
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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7:45 p.m. – Permalink
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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7:48 p.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    "One of the most brilliant things the Nazis did was to coopt rationality, and to coopt hope. They created circumstances such that at every step of the way it was in the Jews' rational best interests not to resist. Would you rather get an ID card, or resist and possibly get killed? Would you rather take a journey on a cattle car, or resist and possibly get killed? At each step, choices have been reduced such that the victims participate "of their own free will."

    http://www.derrickjensen.org/fre…

    So, do you want to the cops to attack the protestors or do you want the global corporations to gut your economy and continue creating an unanswerable global oligarchy? Your choice, citizen.

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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 7:55 p.m. – Permalink
  • i_monk

    Korea is in a perpetual state of protest, they just take some days off without notice. (And those Koreans obviously planned ahead and in great number, Toronto protesters didn't intend to burn anything, it took black bloc morons bused in from Montreal to do a half-assed job of it.)

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    Dog-earJun 28, 10, 8:16 p.m. – Permalink
  • bliznutty

    ok so let me get this straight, so far at the G20 we have seen:

    1. over 1000 people arrested (nearly all non-violent protesters)
    2. riot police charging peaceful civilians without warning
    3. rubber bullets, tear gas, clubs
    4. unmarked minivans with undercovers jumping out and capturing protesters
    5. undercover police infiltrating peaceful protest groups
    6. undercover police dressed in all black (like black bloc)
    7. black bloc strolling through town vandalizing every thing in sight without a single arrest?

    This is very interesting.. as I remember not long ago during the Iranian elections.. how the corporate media villianized the Iranian government for not allowing 'free speech' and civil right to 'protest'.

    what a total fallacy this world is.. its like the matrix - based on deception.. a lie.. a wolf in sheep's clothing

    • nice matrix reference... ; )ideaist1/2
      not to mention the unprecedented $1 billion in securitybliznutty2/2
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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 8:01 a.m. – Permalink
  • LOKi

    not sure if this has been posted yet (too lazy and sick of shit to read through all the posts), but i think its important to contextualise the police strategy:

    http://www.thestar.com/article/8…

    If one billion dollars of security can't stop approximately 50-75 vandals, you gotta wonder if that's what they were trying to do in the first place. OR is this a state sanctioned show of force against any dissenting voices, a signpost to keep people in their place. Scary shit.

    • nice article.. you're definitely catching on.. i myself am a protester and know this first handbliznutty
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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 8:56 a.m. – Permalink
  • LOKi

    I was there too, and in Quebec 10 years ago. Quebec was different, there was way more open confrontation, but it was like a cat and mouse game (not that it was a game, it was brutal and ugly) between the cops and the demonstrators. We pushed, they shot at us, we backed away, then regrouped, and pushed back, etc. Despite the violence, it made sense, and in the end we actually managed to disrupt and deligitimize the FTAA talks. To the point that the agreement was never signed.

    Toronto has been a different story. The countless stories are much more horrific because it isn't even about conflict. The violence is a side issue to the intimidation, fear, control and criminilisation of people working for social change. I have a friend in jail now who was nabbed out of her bed at gunpoint at 4am on Saturday morning (before the demo)!!! The cops broke into the home at which she was staying and just grabbed her and her friends. at gunpoint.

    let me say that one more time. Cops broke into the home of a private citizen and kidnapped an innocent women at gunpoint and are now holding her in jail.

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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 9:11 a.m. – Permalink
  • Claymantis

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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 10:04 a.m. – Permalink
  • davebellechique

    http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/g20_06_28/g22_24093105.jpg

    http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/g20_06_28/g21_24092755.jpg

    http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/g20_06_28/g25_24093141.jpg

    • ok... the black block the causing trouble and vandalizing. but the black guy is just looting...pango
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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 2:38 p.m. – Permalink
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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 2:46 p.m. – Permalink
  • lodef

    I still can't believe that police cruiser was allowed to stay there and burn and be destroyed and have some guy sit inside it while simultaneously a large number of police were corralling perfectly peaceful people into groups shooting beanbags at them and arresting them etc. You'd think, being their property and stuff, that they'd secure the area and put the fire out in minutes. Obviously there was an ulterior interest.

    • After seeing all this shit, I really don't know what to think.Andrew_D
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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 4:26 p.m. – Permalink
  • bliznutty

    @1:20 -

    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4376/copape.jpg

    You decide!

    http://www.brainfleas.com/WindowsLiveWriter/BushDescendedFromGreatApeBlowtoDarwinism_7B3C/evolution.gif

    • @:22 i meantbliznutty1/3
      "it's so easy, even a woman wieldng a collapsible baton could do it!"monNom2/3
      holy fuck she is ugly... no wonder she is in the police force.pango3/3
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    Dog-earJun 29, 10, 6:54 p.m. – Permalink
  • xcarlx

    &feature=player_embedded#

    now this is fucked up

    • Their are enough people their to defeat the outnumbered police...ideaist1/3
      The HD really brings it to life.Andrew_D2/3
      love it at 3:00. Someone playing Khumbaya, and the guy behind picking his head. WTF is the point of all this, it's just crap.mikotondria33/3
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    Dog-earJun 30, 10, 10:53 a.m. – Permalink
  • xcarlx

    expect most effective descent in our "democracy" to face "miami model" tactics from her on out. how are we different from iran exactly?

    • different from Iran in the following ways: security costs much higher, more modern riot weapons/gear, more modern tactical trainingbliznutty1/2
      tactical trainingbliznutty2/2
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    Dog-earJun 30, 10, 10:59 a.m. – Permalink
  • nb

    http://www.vancouversun.com/news…

    • 100 !!!pango1/2
      Oh fuck.. the story she told is horrible .... o_o... somebody needs to sue the entire police force for inappropriate actions.pango2/2
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    Dog-earJun 30, 10, 10:34 p.m. – Permalink

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