Pay your freelancers... 3232 Responses

Last post: 2 years, 4 months ago | Thread started: Dec 9, 09, 5:30 p.m.

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• MrDinky

  I pay for freelancers

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 5:54 p.m. – Permalink

• akrokdesign

  

  • < NO. DON'T PAY ME IN GUMS.– akrokdesign1/2

    nice drop shadow... big spread but low opacity.– fuckinglol_prophet2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6 p.m. – Permalink

• fibonacci

  PonyBoy, if I employed you, I wouldn't pay you either. I'd keep telling you "check's in the mail" until you finally gave up.

  • That's the shit I'm getting. Damnit.– fyoucher1

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6:05 p.m. – Permalink

• PonyBoy

  Hi, fibby!

  • I will skullfuck your iphone.– fibonacci

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6:06 p.m. – Permalink

• fyoucher1

  Err. Funny that you mention this. This is my conflict and frustration for tonight too...I'm going through the same ishh right now with a 'certain' ad agency. Come on finance, I gots kids to feed.

  • agencies are who i prefer to work with too... they usually pay on time... :(– PonyBoy

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6:21 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit

  Think of it this way, if you hired yourself, would you pay you?

  • ya-way!– akrokdesign

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6:34 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit

  http://www.dailymotion.com/video…

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6:35 p.m. – Permalink

• mathinc

  I think we should have a thread with non-payment clients so that we can all refer to it before taking on work.

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 6:57 p.m. – Permalink

• forcetwelve

  i remember when i worked for myself how frustrating it was to not get paid. scraping $ together for rent, and well, let's face it - for food... sucks.

  • +1– ernexbcn

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 7:06 p.m. – Permalink

• fuckinglol_prophet

  The larger the company client, the slower the payment...

  Of course this comes with the paradox that the larger the client, the less the oversight with regards to billing...

  • < Truth.– noneck1/2

    not the truth, the larger the internal bureaucracy, the slower the payment. My fastest clients are big firms.– NONEIS2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 8:16 p.m. – Permalink

• neue75_bold

  my payment term is 12 days, haven't had a problem yet.. in fact, I generally get paid well ahead of my terms...

  • but in my case the studio's know they are lucky to have me..– neue75_bold1/4

    you failed to mention that you're a cash-only 'manual relief' expert.– airey2/4

    you fail, full stop..– neue75_bold3/4

    ...over! :-)– akrokdesign4/4

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 9:26 p.m. – Permalink

• Cptn_Uncanny

  I've been fighting for payment well over a month now for one of my last projects. There is a contract but they don't want to pay because they're disappointed in my work, although what I did is generating a considerable amount of press for them... I am now thinking about a career change to something more respected. Like mud massaging seniors with toothbrushes made out of backhair. I hear the pay is really good.

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 9:39 p.m. – Permalink

• monNom

  You gotta read up on how lawyers bill. Those are some ruthless mofos. Large retainer up-front, stop work on invoice, payable in 5days, etc.

  I bet they don't have near the problems collecting that us 'net 90' suckers do.

  • i hate net 90.– akrokdesign

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 9:45 p.m. – Permalink

• arthur

  Three of my clients have gone under this year after I've completed the work but before they paid. Two of them eventually paid.

  The third strung me along for months, making excuses. The AD called me after he was laid off and apologized for lying to me all those months, he said he was told what to say to me and they hadn't paid anybody. Contacted collections, but the next day got a letter from the client saying they will make good on all invoices. I'm holding tight for the time being. Would rather get the 100%, but I can only wait so long.

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 9:52 p.m. – Permalink

• vitamins

  Not paying freelancers or delay of payment happens way too often. There should be a law on this.

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 9:55 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Um, contracts?

  • Don't mean much unless you're pursuing legal means.– arthur1/2

    Yep, and the big ones always have ways around them.– fyoucher12/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 10:27 p.m. – Permalink

• heavyt

  I find it interesting that the people I subcontract for complain about their clients not paying them fast enough, and then they make me wait 90 days to get a check from them. You'd think they'd be more sensitive to that issue.
  I make it a point to pay my sub-contractors right after they deliver files to me. Even if I know I wont see the payment from my client for weeks or months.
  I like to think they respect me more for that, and are more likely to work for me in the future because of it.

  • < good man, one of the few– gramme1/3

    i guess i figure, you know you are gonna pay out that money anyway, so why put it off? just delaying the inevitable.– heavyt2/3

    I had the luck to work with people just like you and it's a blessing– ernexbcn3/3

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 09, 10:28 p.m. – Permalink

• ernexbcn

  I'm on the same fucking boat as you right now, some people owe me 800€ that I needed two months ago so imagine my overall situation. They promised to pay me by oct 30th and I haven't seen the money yet.

  I wrote yesterday to that motherfucker asking politely for a real estimate of when he'll finally be able to pay me and all I got was this:

  "do you live in Mars, because here in planet Earth there's a worldwide economic crisis and you are not the only one with problems..."

  And I won't keep quoting the whole thing because it's maddening, this fucker won't even give me now an estimate on when and how much I'm getting, and I need that money since the end of summer

  • as a side note I'm currently jobless with bills piling up like crazy– ernexbcn1/3

    Man that sucks - If I got that reply from that guy I would march straight down to that office and forcibly take the cash– vuc2/3

    800 euros? surely that qualifies for a simplified civil suit process. If he doesn't want to honor the contract, file and serve.– mkuplens3/3

  

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  Dog-earDec 10, 09, 12:48 a.m. – Permalink

• sofakingbanned

  Yup I'm waiting on a check myself... but like you guys said unfortunately for us that always seems to be the case.

  

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  Dog-earDec 10, 09, 1:08 a.m. – Permalink

• monNom

  I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but 'factoring' of invoices might make a lot of sense for freelancers. Essentialy you sell the debt(your invoice) at a discount to a factoring company, who then collects. You get maybe 80-90% of the invoice but you get it right away, and the factoring co. eats the bad debts. -- Sorts out your cash-flow, though reduces your ultimate profit.

  Not sure if you maybe need lots of billings to do it though.

  

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  Dog-earDec 10, 09, 1:12 a.m. – Permalink