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  • IRNlun6-2

    1,000s Turkish forces surround NATO’s Incirlik air base for ‘inspection’ amid rumors of coup attempt

    http://www.rt.com/news/354042-tu…

    • Incirlik Air Base:
      - Holds 90 Nuclear Weapons
      - Used by NATO and US
      - Used to strike ISIS
      IRNlun6
    • http://www.telesurtv…IRNlun6
    • Not sure what to make of this. Only Russian sources covering. Airspace around base closed.IRNlun6
    • BEEZ, you needs to get out. telling you, start your turkexit...yurimon
    • I wonder what Obama/NATO is going to start a war over this??robotron3k
  • ernexbcn2

    John McCain's granddaughter on Trump:

    https://medium.com/@ccmccain/for…

    • no substance, 1) freedom is not a multiple choice equation 2) This article is superficial. 3) i have never read a good article on both candidates.yurimon
    • Do you have some kind of twitch, where you find it utterly impossible to let something pass without making some type of snide remark?face_melter
    • If this is superficial then so is everything about trumps campaign. You've also ignored all the good articles because there are countless. So embarrassing.monospaced
    • dude you girl is super fake. you ignore so much that is available as info just because you yourself is racist/sexist. we want a woman as our fascist leader.yurimon
    • Wow - you really think you can get away with calling someone racist/sexist for despising Trump?fadein11
    • ^ lol, and you never did that to anyone for supporting trump? it was trap using liberal methods and u sprang the hypocrite trap. good jyob.yurimon
    • You're a fucking cunt and a retard if you think I'm racist or sexist. I'm starting to think that's your only response to any of this. Just make up shit.monospaced
    • #yuritard... we gotta stop feeding the troll and let him vote for a retarded cunt of a presidential candidate... oooh because the 'system is broken' andfadein11
    • Hilary is a shitbag... oooooh whine yuri, whine on, you are not waking any sheeple here - you are the fucking sheep for falling for the moron.fadein11
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  • yuekit1

    Clinton takes the lead again following the Dem convention

    Clinton 41 Trump 35

    http://www.reuters.com/article/u…

    Clinton 46 Trump 41

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.c…

    • My suspicion is that by the end it will look very much like the last election. Democrats win by a few points, solid margin but no landslide.yuekit
    • 37%-37% when including Johnson & SteinIRNlun6
  • since1979-3

    All candidates are illuminati, this is all a unification attempt. Social experiment.

    That's all folks.

    lol.

  • monospaced3

    Instead of apologizing trump is doubling down and attacking the parents of that soldier and their beliefs. Even more people on both sides are now deciding not to side with him as now it seems his morality is truly fucked up. What an embarrassing time to call oneself a trump supporter.

    • Just as loco as hildawg. so what you are saying is, you prefer your psychotics to be more bottled up and hidden from view n give an act of normalcy to supportyurimon
    • the lies through appearances and keeping an esthetic facade.yurimon
    • I kinda prefer a propped fake face myself these days, just like you. its pretty much acceptable to mask racist neocon policy under the democrat party banner.yurimon
    • Didn't Hillary point-blank lie to Patricia Smith about some video being the reason for her son's death when she knew better?... then double-down?PonyBoy
    • add^^ an esthetic politically correct facadeyurimon
    • How many times has Hillary been part of covering-up/paying-o... a woman that Bill raped, abused or had an affair with? Then she doubles-down on 'women's rights'PonyBoy
    • What an embarrassing time to call oneself a Hillary supporter.PonyBoy
    • Embarrassing.monospaced
    • Both of you.monospaced
    • (and she's done far more than just 'double-down')PonyBoy
    • ps... Trump sucks
      <3
      PonyBoy
    • I am impressed with monos mental masking abilities to prefer on candidate over another.yurimon
    • haha—Trump hasn't done SHIT yet. He has no record except for saying dumb shit. Hillary covers up rape for her husband... which is worse?PonyBoy
    • Trump.monospaced
    • ponyboy, suspected racism is more serious than rape to a democrat.yurimon
    • Both.PonyBoy
    • Why you focus on my makes no sense. This is simply about trump being a piece of shit. Post whatever you want.monospaced
    • 'suspected'... hehe :)PonyBoy
    • mono... the difference between you and I is I focus on how BOTH are pieces of shit and don't kid myself that the one with a REAL RECORD isn't vile (H).PonyBoy
    • Trump is mere WORDS right now... Hillary has already proven herself w/many pathetic /disgusting ACTIONS for 30+ years. Actions speak louder than words... yes?PonyBoy
    • lol if you say somonospaced
    • sooo... you're laughing at rape—rape is fine... but you're getting pissed-off over a person disrespecting a soldier and his family?PonyBoy
    • I am not. I'm laughing at your responses which are only to point fingers and yell "but her too!"monospaced
    • If you want to make a point about Hillary being shitty, then make a post about it like I did. It's more effective Jan making dumb assumptions about me.monospaced
    • Oh... so... you're cool w/someone who is actually worse than Trump because she has a track record whereas Trump is only words thus far... got it, mono. :)PonyBoy
    • haha... making up your own rules on discussions in the politics thread now, mono? you comment on posts you disagree with on a daily basisPonyBoy
    • I wasn't making any rules, just a suggestion that you perhaps post about her instead of defending trump.monospaced
    • If you want to make a case that she's immoral, I was suggesting you post it instead of just bringing it up on my posts alone.monospaced
    • The simplest explanation for monos behavior in choosing sidesis best. One he is prob life long democrat will vote, shit, eat and die being one.yurimon
    • i'd say racism, is the his second problem. seems to use the same filter mechanism as racist, sexist in judging the world. just associates it as non racistyurimon
    • based on PC culture, it masks his attempt to try to appear as a non racist. big time virtue signaling and i think it must be true cause i think it matrix.yurimon
    • Someone please mop up all this yUrineRamanisky2
    • how we went from Trump's comments to accusing me of being a rape apologist and a racist is insaenmonospaced
    • lol, i have to admit it is hilarious bromansky. laugh everytime.yurimon
    • i dont know mono, maybe the answer lay when figure out how you can only see one candidate and not the other.yurimon
    • but that's not true... that's like accusing me of hating cats because I have a dog... I can call out Trump without being a Hillary fan, assholemonospaced
    • Only time will tell if you can get past a single trump being a dick headline without completely losing your shit and calling the poster a racist.monospaced
    • i dont know why you feel you are loosing your shit. Your arguments are not solid in politics dude. you can only get trump on minor nuisances. yet you defendyurimon
    • hildawg regardless of the evidence https://www.youtube.…
      what you say boot this?
      yurimon
    • #yurinefadein11
    • yuri you somehow completely misunderstood everything I just typedmonospaced
    • You are really embarrassing yourself, especially when you try to frame yourself as a critical thinker. Ducking joke, just like your savior Trumpmonospaced
    • I know its problem for you. i cant understand how you mask 1/2 of reality off and how you are not responsible for deflecting conversation. then playing dumb.yurimon
    • did you see the documentary? its pretty straight forward. what did you think about it?yurimon
    • Holy shit you sound so stupid.monospaced
    • i thought so. you have no substance to back up you hillery claims.yurimon
    • Tell me how stupid you are for not reviewing a documentary that could possibly rethink your political position because facts.yurimon
    • That's because you're an idiotic trump supporter. I don't expect you to understand that everything you say about me is fabricated.monospaced
    • Keep talking. It only makes you more embarrassing.monospaced
    • I'm not a trump supporter but you have no argument and a mass of ignorance. you would be a good target of being cheated on because no matter the evidence youyurimon
    • will be in denial of facts if you treat any other aspect of your life like you do your love for hilleryyurimon
    • I actually did have an argument. It's clear. Trump's response came from a place of disrespect. Where you have taken this is your own irrelevant trigger tantrummonospaced
    • It is a fact that he said those things, and it's a fact that many people are deeply offended by his lack of tact and apparent lack of morality. Fact.monospaced
    • You are, for some reason, denying that and instead talking about someone else. That's not how arguments work. You can't argue that Trump was moral here.monospaced
  • utopian6

    Why ‘white trash’ Americans are flocking to Donald Trump

    http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/why…

    • I should question my reliance on government control. It's not like its been the forefront of this country's successes.omg
    • good articleIRNlun6
  • since1979-2

    'One ISIS attack every 84 hours' spurs dread and anger in Europe

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/eu…

  • autoflavour8

  • nb3

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/o…

    ^ Here's what the mother has to say. (Not that Trump cares. But you should.)

    This whole thing would've been a relatively easy thing to respond to for most politicians. They can apologize, politely acknowledge this family's sacrifice, and continue on with your campaign.

    But Trump is incapable of humility. He's the arrogant old man at the pub who flat out refuses to admit when he's wrong. He's the guy who tries to talk over everyone, never conceding. He does and says whatever he feels to protect his ego, above all else. That characteristic is probably very useful if you're involved in the corrupt, shady world of New York real estate.

    But, I want you to think about how important it is for a head of state to be able to set aside their own ego for the sake of the bigger picture. To be able to empathize with other points of view, and to accept other's views as valid, even if you disagree.

    A president needs to be able to listen and learn. To adapt. To be a diplomat. Trump is proving, again and again, that his ego is too important to him.

    He is the smallest of men.

    He's of such poor character that he publicly and intentionally attacked the family of fallen US Soldier rather than let his ego be hurt. This type of thing could destroy any political campaign. Of course, Trump has only learned that he will not be held accountable for what he says. His supporters have taught him that. He's a spoiled child, and his supporters and the GOP are the bad parents who refuse to discipline him.

    Trump is an embarrassment to himself. The fact that he's a presidential candidate is an embarrassment to all Americans.

    If you disagree with that last sentence, imagine the old man at the pub, shouting ignorant things that he knows nothing about. He often does not realize until much later that he should have been embarrassed.

    • For clarity: I wrote the text. If you want to read the mother's words you need to click on that WashPost link.nb
    • The mother only said "Donald Trump said that maybe I wasn’t allowed to say anything. That is not true."omg
    • The rest are prolonged by thoughts, critics, and opinions of everyone else to demonize their opposition.omg
    • Which is scary because 99.9% of what we know about Trump are fabrications created by the media.omg
    • Clarity: my post isn't about the mother's comments. My post is about Trump's reaction to the initial speech and his narcissistic personality disorder.nb
    • In hindsight, I should've made a separate post for the Ghazala Khan's comments.nb
    • Not trying to support behind any presidential nominee. Its been too obvious how the media can intensify an idea beyond its original intention.omg
    • he is an alpha male on steroids as personality. the narcissism is same as current administration or his opponent candidate. just because other lie or maskyurimon
    • whats on their mind doesnt make it any different.yurimon
    • Trump's reaction was a call for Trump to reflect upon his own sacrifices he defined as his own positive contributions to society.omg
    • but i totally agree that Trump may lack humility which would improve his responses to sensitive issues in family matters, race and religion.omg
    • Yes, agree he seems to handle it off the cuff which makes for him not thinking before speaking. But you can say the exact same thingrobotron3k
    • about Hilary's or Obama's lack of sacrifice. They are pro politicos. The fact is, whether he was a Muslim, Christian, Atheist, human life hasrobotron3k
    • value. It is sad when ANY military personnel die, and honestly a Muslim military death has the same value as all military deaths.robotron3k
    • I don't think this family is any different, but they were propped up by the Dems for the DNC. They were effectively used for sure.robotron3k
    • He could have handled it way different and flipped the script if he was smart.robotron3k
    • I criticize trump for this and I'm labeled a rape apologist and a racist by yuri somehow. You post it and yuri doesn't get triggered. No idea.monospaced
    • Anyway. I agree. Trump is a complete embarrassment and anyone supporting him should be just as embarrassed. Nicely written nb. +1monospaced
    • lol, monocirclejerkyurimon
    • omg is 100% right about media influence on how some people see him. you dont have to really do much but insinuate crap and people run with ityurimon
    • wow, Khans' son died in 2004 when Bush was president!!! Now Khan is saying Islam is not associated with terrorism at all. He's starting torobotron3k
    • sound more like the Orlando's shooters father... this could backfire on the Dems!!robotron3k
    • Really well said.fadein11
    • yurimon is embarrassed right now.fadein11
    • @robotron3k:
      Yep.
      PonyBoy
    • fadein just fadedoutyurimon
    • Are Muslims not supposed to say anything when someone running for President is proposing to ban them from the country?yuekit
    • I guess just they should STFU and let Trump carry out his half-assed plan to ban 1/4 of the world which he obviously came up with in 5 minutes.yuekit
    • nobody wants to deport already legal people. dont get your virtue panties in a bunch.yurimon
    • if a water hole is poisoned, you stop the flow, salvage all the good water that you have, fix it before you turn back on again for high quality H2O.omg
    • Sure let's keep pretending it's a sane and realistic plan to ban people based on religion, which you can't even determine.yuekit
    • It's the kind of policy a child would come up with, but you have people like yurimon defending it because Trump said so.yuekit
    • The level of mass ignorance out there is actually much scarier than Trump himself.yuekit
    • yupmonospaced
    • ^ one right tharyurimon
    • he was referring to trump and his people yuri, of which I am not onemonospaced
    • If you want to attack someone, attack the person who personally insulted you, not me for agreeing. You are so weird.monospaced
  • Ramanisky25

  • utopian6

  • dbloc0

  • 20021

    Does Hillary Clinton deserve the label 'Crooked Hillary' that Trump has given her?

    https://www.quora.com/Does-Hilla…

    Compared to who? As Joe Biden says, “Don’t compare me to the almighty. Compare me to the alternative.” And in this case the alternative is a real estate swindler whose main difference from Bernie Madoff is that Trump has figured out how to cheat others while staying out of jail.

    Take the candidates’ public statements. Pulitzer Prize-winning fact checker PolitiFact found that Clinton lies 28% of the time.

    That’s a lot. If you stop there, as Trump supporters always do, it sounds like this alone justifies Trump’s damning characterization of her.

    But if you do go on, PolitiFact found that Trump lies 76% of the time. The only candidate for this election who lies even more is Ben Carson at 84%—you know, the guy who at the GOP convention said Clinton was a Satan worshiper and meant it literally. Not sure if you can call something that delusional a liar. Trump, on the other hand, appears perfectly rational—or at least as rational as a terminally narcissistic demagogue can be.

    A note for Bernie Bros—PolitiFact found that he also lies 28% of the time. Ditto Jon Kasich. Apparently 28% lying is the gold standard for politicians. Except all the other GOP candidates lied a lot more, though none approached Trump and Carson.

    The Republican Party has spent how much on trying to pin something on this Demcrat, over the past 20 years? Who in American history has had more money and time and effort spent on trying to find something they could use to put her in prison?

    If she is a crook she’s a billiant one, because there she is livin’ large, probably our next President (according to the 538 blog, which has the best track record for predicting elections), and all the GOP has come up with, after all that effort, is innuendo and character attacks.

    Trump, on the other hand, while not in jail, has been involved in 3,500 lawsuits—more than the next five real estate developers combined.

    To call someone “crooked” legitimately they need to be engaged in proven illegal activity in the eyes of the law—indicted, tried, and convicted. It’s a condemnation that can’t be legitimately applied to anything less, because it’s presented as a summation of someone’s character.

    Now “Dollar” Jackson, the Democratic congressman now doing hard time, or Duke Cunningham, the Republican congressman now also doing hard time (who even had a menu with his prices for different services he could render businesses that paid him)—those are crooked politicians. Not the ones who were tossed out of office for personally scuzzy behavior, like Tony Wiener.

    Possibly not even the many, many politicians of both parties who entered Congress as middle class citizens and left office as millionaires, then walked into cushy jobs with the companies they’d been in charge of regulating. All legally, since Congress made insider trading a felony for you and me but legal for them.

    Possibly not even someone like Republican Dennis Hastert, who bribed the boys he raped to buy their silence (from when he was a boys wrestling coach), since that didn’t affect his work as long-term Speaker of the House (and who regularly moralized about how evil Bill Clinton was for his womanizing).

    I would define a politician as being crooked if they committed crimes while in office that affected their actions as an elected politician, and those crimes were proven in a court of law, and their conviction was never overturned.

    There are dozens of national politicians who earned that definition of “crooked” in my lifetime.

    Clinton is not one of them. Trump calls her that, first and foremost because he’s a real estate swindler and an adroit demagogue always accuses his opponent of being what what he himself is. I don’t call him “crooked” because he’s never been convicted, and I’m not omniscient. as Republican ideologues believe they are. I call him “swindler” because you can be one of those and stay out of jail if you’re clever enough—especially in real estate, which enjoys lax laws in this area.

    But consider how Fortune magazine (the source of the Fortune 500 listings each year) describes his style of business:

    “No amount of spin will make Trump’s dozen years at the helm of a Trump Hotels, the only public company Trump has ever run, look like anything but a flop that damaged thousands of shareholders, bondholders, and workers. The sole “winner” now packs arenas across America, mesmerizing tens of thousands of cheering fans with tales of his business triumphs.”

    There’s a reason why he, alone among presidential candidates in the last 50 years, won’t reveal his tax returns .

    I started this comment by saying “compared to who?” Compared to all politicians currently in office or who served in national office over the last 20 years, she’s one of the more virtuous ones. I’m thinking of all the ones who are now lobbyists for the companies they once “regulated.” Which includes manyDemocrats and Republicans.

    And if we include everything that doesn’t serve the American people under the sobriquet “crooked,” the most crooked are the fossil fuel industry puppets who deny the scientific fact of dangerous, man-caused climate change.

    And heading the list of such fossil fuel industry puppets is Donald J. Trump, who dismisses it as a commie plot.

    If you use “crooked” in the broadest possible terms, Trump’s policy positions define the word, because nearly every one of them betrays the American people.

    Including stuff like his wall to keep Mexicans out. As it happens I’m against the Democrats’ amnesty proposals. But nothing the Republicans say would do any better at dealing with illegal immigrants, showing that they’re listening to their billionaire string-pullers who want that cheap, union-busting labor for their fields and factories.

    What would work is adopting India’s nationwide biometric ID system. That’s the only way we can catch the many millions now here, and those who enter the country legally but then overstay their visas (which is in the millions by this point). Nothing less than a universal biometric ID will nab them, but no Republican will admit it, because they’ve spent so long cultivating antigovernment militia nut hysteria among their base that they dare not admit this.

    Trump and the Republicans in general wrap themselves in the flag and put themselves on a towering moral pedastel, from which they smugly moralize at the rest of us. Then the GOP’s worst bottom feeders—of whom Trump is the cynosure—demonstrate their total lack of class with a constant stream of juvenile insults.

    Like this one.

    Side note: the biggest opponent of the TPP is Communist China, because it’s America’s best way of controlling Chinese imperialism that threatens our interests in Asia. Trump’s opposition to the TPP plays into their hands. The oligarchs of China and Russia would be delighted if someone as ignorant of America’s actual interests as Trump is won in November. He’s a clever real estate swindler, but in international politics he would be their “useful idiot.”

    And note that if Trump wins and his tax plan is enacted, he will make a killing personally, making “President of the United States” an immensely profitable business venture for him. Is that “crooked”? Or just the ultimate application of thinking the President should run the United States as a business?

    • lol, nice propaganda. needed a good laugh. thanks for posting.yurimon
    • Sup words guy?teh
    • Analyzing whether Clinton is crooked or not, shouldn't involve Trump unless you're trying to see which is more evil than the otheromg
    • Here they are: Hillary's 22 biggest scandals
      http://www.wnd.com/2…
      omg
    • i dont see those scandals in the article. hmmm.yurimon
    • Maybe because they are conspiracy nonsense? The article is literally accusing her of having people who worked for her assassinated lolyuekit
    • ^ sound like you examined them all. [sarcasm]yurimon
  • omg4

    • They skipped the best part when Agent Drumpf does the machine gun punches.teh
  • IRNlun6-4

  • sea_sea6

    I heard someone talking about the "Illuminati Micro Chip" in Hillary's head at my nieces birthday party yesterday.
    I stayed the hell away from that conversation after that. lol

    • Sadly that's almost the norm for the kind of shit coming out of that camp.monospaced
    • I was seriously disoriented by the way everything is twisted into some kind of conspiracy against us all. I was like fuk it, pizza's here!sea_sea
    • Sometimes I think the internet is actually making people dumber. They will think they are informed while believing the most ridiculous shit.yuekit
    • An advanced military grade tracking device would offer precise locations and health statuses of politicians in case of terrorist capture.omg
    • I have no idea what to believe anymore. I suppose with technology these days anything is possible. but some chip that controls what you say or do? yea no.sea_sea
    • To protect a trillion dollar investment, administering a remote controlled suicide pill would be a very evil way to get that person to do whatever you wanted.omg
    • Another possibility could be nanobots delivering the 'Devil's Breath' chemical from Colombia which can block free will, wipe memory and even kill as well.omg
    • @omg, you really need to look up the definition of "possibility"monospaced
    • @mono, You have a problem with the possible?omg
    • only when it's not ;)monospaced
  • mg333

    Trump's campaign people are just as mindless as he is. It's hard to believe journalists even have these people on the air.

    • The stupid is strong on that one. What a brainless moran.BusterBoy
  • IRNlun6-3

    An Open Letter to Khizr Khan

    http://globalriskinfo.com/2016/0…

    • This article is simply incorrect.
      Trump DID call for banning all Muslims.
      yuekit
    • It's amazing how his supporters continue to try to pretend this didn't happen when he is on video saying it.yuekit
    • Plenty of people understand the context of his statement. The left wants to keep pushing the idea that Islamic terrorism has nothing to due with the faith.IRNlun6
    • Which is just as ignorant a position as every muslim is a terrorist.IRNlun6
    • DNC uses this father as a prop, who no one knew or knows anything about other than him being a muslim and losing a son in combat. Cheap political games.IRNlun6
    • The article calls Democrats "disingenuous" for saying Trump wants to ban Muslims. When in fact he did exactly that. The press release is still on his website.yuekit
    • It's such a dumb policy that even his supporters can't believe he actually proposed it apparently :)yuekit
    • Yes, and it's preceded by a very specific context of Islamic terrorism, a specific part of the world and until there's a better understanding of the problem.IRNlun6
    • Dems want to hang on to one specific statement without acknowledging any clarifications or even his statement that it's not in reference to an entire faith.IRNlun6
    • They just want to push the idea that Trump is a bigot for their own political gain. Keeping people ignorant to a very nuanced and dangerous problem.IRNlun6
    • Cmon man, how completely upside down can you frame things? Trump did propose complete ban, and it was done to pander to the far right in the primary.yuekit
    • There's nothing admirable about proposing an unrealistic policy in response to a real threat.yuekit
    • Anyway I was just pointing out the absurdity of your article calling liberals liars for accurately describing Trump's policy.yuekit
    • You can take this as pandering but it's a break from the established position that refuses to acknowledge simple pattern recognition.IRNlun6
    • Trump may have called out all Muslims, but being that he's a strong advocator of upholding constitutional rights to American citizens.omg
    • It would protect the Muslim-American citizens under the same constitutional blanket.omg
    • It absolutely protects Muslim Americans. His statement is specific to immigration, in a time of war.IRNlun6
    • "being that he's a strong advocator of upholding constitutional rights"
      trolololol
      yuekit
    • IRNlun6, the people dealing with these issues of terrorism are not ignorant of the source of the problem.yuekit
    • he's supposedly the "law-and-order candidate." that's got his followers shooting from the hip on the 2nd amendment.omg
    • They certainly know more about the realities than Trump, commenting based on what he sees on TV.yuekit
    • It's just that there's a smart way of dealing with complex, difficult issues like this and a stupid way.yuekit
    • Contrary to the far right's version of things, the problem is not caused by "political correctness" and isn't going to go away just because you elect someoneyuekit
    • who poses as a strong leader.yuekit
    • I think if Bernie possessed the same magnetic personality that Trump has with the media, Sanders could have had a carried his revolution over the top.omg
    • Clinton spent $80 million on advertising. Even though Trump is a billionaire, he only needed to throw down $20 million to get the same amount of followersomg
    • So he can't really be all that dumb as he makes himself out to be.omg
    • Like Bernie, Trump's strings aren't pulled by big corporate like Hillary. That should be a good thing for people, unless you're a big fan of corporate rule.omg
    • He is taking donations, so if you buy the idea that donations = influence, not sure if that's really true.yuekit
    • Which then you're not ready to be unplugged.omg