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- GeorgesII-14
fadein, watch this and tell me again, she's not one of the biggest war monger and also a blatant racist,
- One of the biggest... that's better :)
Your sweeping statements and generalisations really get on my tits.
But glad you have corrected yourself now. Thanks.fadein11 - well, being pedant is what you've been doing for months, I'm happy you think it's better she's only one of the biggest warmongers.. sighhGeorgesII
- you insult people with your condescending tone, putting everyone into a single group...
and it's boring to be honest.fadein11 - downvotes say it all.fadein11
- well according to real life, downvotes don't change a single thing. Trump is still going to win and you will spend 8 years crying about how bad the system isGeorgesII
- Thanks for telling me what I will do :)fadein11
- yo bro, check that doc, plus the next leak from assange will be orgasmic ehehhe :)GeorgesII
- According to fadein, the truth is condescending also. its condescending to prove one wrong with facts cause it feels bad.yurimon
- Gross. You two actually like trump and what he and his party stand for. Ew.monospaced
- yeah man - Trump supporters lol... hilarious.fadein11
- even assange hinted at trump.yurimon
- He said they are both terrible
http://www.qbn.com/r…yuekit - Assange is clearly a Trump supporter. The most powerful endorsement one could ever imagine.formed
- Vote YuriorgesXVIfadein11
- some popular posts today Georges lol.fadein11
- Holy Fuk!!! I'm only 3/4 a way through the doc and Bill & Hilary are straight up Government Mafia!! Trump IS going to win – unless they JFK him!robotron3k
- you should use more exclamation points if you want to sound less insane or idiotic, robo ... all caps if you're going for rationalitymonospaced
- One of the biggest... that's better :)
- since19790
right now neither politician has my vote. i will wait until the debates.
i have my own petitions to try to deal with.
Impeach Rick Scott.
- I can't wait, it will be amusing as fuckGeorgesII
- battle of the blondessince1979
- I can't see how you'd find any of this amusing. Either way it's a race to the bottom and nobody wins.Fax_Benson
- lets see what issues they bring up and "promise" to championsince1979
- So you live in FL? This is someone who will actually help decide the election unlike all you non-Americans :)yuekit
- yessince1979
- I feel like it's irrelevant now. So much bs and lies, nothing really matters what they say. It'll be which side can create a worse scandal.formed
- So far, Trump is winning with this hacking. Gonna be tough to top that one.formed
- He could win but I wouldn't jump to conclusions, Trump right now is now ahead of Hillary for the first time in an entire year.yuekit
- His followers interpret a 1 point lead following the convention as inevitable landslide victory.yuekit
- I dont care about all of this early speculation. Im ready for the debates.since1979
- IRNlun60
... and another one happened. Normandy, priest, beheaded. FFS.
- He will never be the head of a major organization.since1979
- hilarious, docpoz?detritus
- not at all.since1979
- wasn't beheadedfadein11
- No, they just sacrifically slit an 86 year old's throat, which is much better.detritus
- Just saying it wasn't a beheading - spreading false information isn't helpful.fadein11
- Many are reporting that it was. Who's spreading the misinformation?IRNlun6
- okay - I read different... but who's to argue over the murder as detritus said - I just thought if not a beheading it's a little sensationalist calling it that.fadein11
- True, moot point. I'm reading he was know ISIS and wore an ankle bracelet to monitor. Seems a very poor way of dealing with known terrorists.IRNlun6
- yuekit2
- I love this guy's edits, but this was pretty boring.nb
- I didn't realize Super Deluxe was a Tim Heidecker project! makes sense.sarahfailin
- bliznutty-5
if you believe that a representative democracy is in any way fair, or the 'fairest' system we know, or even that it works, or whatever the establishment told you - then you are as gullible as you possibly can be!
you supported Bernie => Bernie now totally supports Hillary Clinton => you now support Hillary Clinton
welcome to the fairest system we know of. ha fucking ha!
maybe now, if we really want to help the next generations, we could start dreaming of true equality and just put this system on the shelf and create a new society where each individual can represent his/herself. perhaps using technology?
- What is the "fairest' system we know? What works?monospaced
- Bernie is supporting Hillary because the alternative is to support Trump, and that he cannot live with. He did say he was disappointed by this, btw.monospaced
- oh change the fuckin' record... another condescending presumptious dick.fadein11
- https://www.youtube.…Bluejam
- ^ great film - one of my faves.fadein11
- Second Life?Fax_Benson
- @bliz There are variations of Representative Democracy that don't involve a two-party system in which both parties have gamed the system to prevent outsiders.nb
- America MIGHT have the best democratic system today, but probably not. It's a difficult thing to say, each country's democracy having it's pros/cons.nb
- I agree there should be some action to seek change or improvement of the system. I think its just a tall order and most people would rather take the easy road.sofakingback
- Even if you could elect outside the parties, you still have congress full of these guys, so he really wouldn't be able to get shit done.sofakingback
- So theres more pieces to this shit-pie other than the president to worry about.sofakingback
- When you get downvotes you're more than likely speaking the truth... because democrats don't like the truth, they live in fantasy land...robotron3k
- ^ it's great in non-racist bigot land thanks.fadein11
- lol @ robo, you keep telling yourself thatmonospaced
- BonSeff4
Those Freedom Kids Who Performed at a Donald Trump Rally Are About to Sue Him
- i ought to sue those kids. that song and dance just gave me ______.sarahfailin
- robotron3k-8
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks as if Hilary is dropping so hard in the poles, and even Bernie is gaining ground again, that she is looking to lose the election to Trump. The convention barely started and they had to sacrifice the DNC chair, field an email controversy galore (and it's not over yet), awake this am to find out Clinton Cash is the #1 film on FB and the DNC Roll Call Vote is suppose to occur today 6pm et. And regardless, you're going to see some divisive Dems as Bernie's name is called out and crowds erupt with madness, but then Hilary is handed the nom by Bernie himself... what a weird political party. So let the Downvotes of sadness begin...
- Kinda like how Cruz wouldn't endorse trump and was booed off stage. Trump being a cunt is the biggest news story of the year. Repub platform is a step backward.monospaced
- That's a weird political party.monospaced
- Hope she doesn't hurt herself. Some of those poles are quite high.BusterBoy
- I can't wait until the debate. That is, if trump doesn't completely puss out like the spineless cunt he is.monospaced
- deathboy0
Man the more I see of this guy the more I like him. Probably the last time someone of his caliber will run for office. Or even a person who seems to be an active scholar and free thinker.
- I'm glad I'm a registered Independent, never heard of this guy...robotron3k
- yea saw him in an interview with gary johnson. he struct me as such having common sense + far more experience politically on a bigger level.deathboy
- funny how libertarians seem to bash him because he isnt extreme enough. GOP should die with trump and make the fiscally cons/sociallyliberal a new branddeathboy
- He was a great Gov of MA. Likely first and last time I'll ever vote GOP.monkeyshine
- monospaced3
- it's okay little bear.omg
- Thanks for that. I needed a cute bear meme.monkeyshine
- nb4
Don't worry too much about the polls.
Still months out. There will be new polls almost daily. We're looking at around 200+ major polls between now and election day.
Remember, MOST Americans are hardly even paying attention, yet. People booing/shouting/protesting/makin... fools of themselves... these people are not the majority.
- Fax_Benson0
The US election looks uncannily like the UK referendum. Fact-free fear mongering and almost complete lack of sensible debate. I think the result will be the same (anti-status-quo protest votes returning a narrow Trump win).The Democrats are sleep-walking into this scenario in the same way that Labour / the left have dawdled into their current meltdown in the UK.
- yep agreed.fadein11
- nationalism due to fear of terrorism. probably justifiably so.since1979
- and there is also frustration from globalization.since1979
- Every attack on Europe, about 1 a day, Trump moves up in the polls.robotron3k
- turns out a lot of idiots actually believe he would somehow end world violence, even though he hasn't said how except to send more troops and carpet bombmonospaced
- This is what scares me. Bernie supporters not giving shit except for themselves. Liberals thinking that trump will never get elected2002
- yeah I would love to know how Trump will make the world a better place as all I have heard come out of his mouth is guff.fadein11
- nationalism due to fear of terror or inequality. didnt JFK say something about fear that people should think aboutdeathboy
- every time the usa gets too liberal something happens that helps the balance tilt to the right. Historically this country has leaned right.since1979
- pattern-wise we are in the 70's or 00's.since1979
- these are my investigative theories. i am batman.since1979
- @2002 - completely agree, this "Bernie or Bust" bs is just horribly selfish. They somehow think by not voting D they absolve themselves from responsibility.formed
- wait... when was the usa "too liberal" before? civil rights? civil war? when?monospaced
- will making it less liberal make it "great again?" can we even become less liberal without increased discrimination and the breakdown of equality?monospaced
- Or worse, they chant "the US deserves Trump", totally oblivious to the big picture of Supreme Court nominees, social platforms, etc., etc., etc.formed
- i think trump thinks that a nationalistic approach to business will bring more jobs back to the usasince1979
- ^ be interesting to see how all that landfill shit will be made for same cost in USA.fadein11
- Trump's way of doing business - not pay for it or decker bankruptcy2002
- Nationalistic approach to business sounds like a step backwards 50 years - you guys globalise the world and then say oh fuck it - we ain't dealing with themfadein11
- anymore. Sounds like a great plan :)fadein11
- The current crop of EU leaders and Hillary are responsible for senseless wars killing hundreds of thousands and displacing millions...IRNlun6
- ... causing a wave of migration not seen since WW2 and increasing terrorism. This is who we trust to bring good solutions and peace?IRNlun6
- All done with a smile and false promises. Because of those decisions is why to me Trump looks like a much less threatening option.IRNlun6
- Seriously? You do realize the party is more powerful than the man and that Pence, an insane religious nut, would be Pres should he die? Crazy logic thereformed
- ahem. Bushmonospaced
- Our constitution grants congress the power to declare war. They haven't done so since WW2.IRNlun6
- Pres. Obama and Hillary when Secretary of State, where a continuation of Bush's war strategy. Their isn't one overthrow of governments she didn't support.IRNlun6
- Pence is a war hawk too though so not a fan of him as VP.IRNlun6
- There isn't one of those that Trump didn't support either, until he changed his mind a few times this year. LOL. At least Hillary knows the names of countries.monospaced
- @mono i dont know about too liberal. That's relative. But the US has had its more-liberal erassince1979
- Too liberal for some conservatives, surely.since1979
- since1979-7
Right now we have a liberal-conservative (Trump) vs a conservative-liberal (Clinton).
It's going to be a bloodbath.
- No it isn't.nb
- shooting of the day thread.sarahfailin
- you think it will be a landslide, nb?since1979
- https://www.demconve… the roll call vote is onrobotron3k
- that chick is super hotmoldero
- omg2
A record 60% of Americans want a new major party. Clinton and Trump are the least liked, least trusted candidates ever.
- Why did you post the flag of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya? Do you really think Gaddafi is the answer?nb
- lolomg
- Americans want a third party as much as the want "change".utopian
- I just don't get why georges yuri and co spent so much energy on hating on bernie sanders in this thread...inteliboy
- the other two are far far far worse.inteliboy
- ^ +formed
- lol @ nboey
- why not yellow?oey
- nb1
@omg
I'm not sure where you got the 60% stat, but I suspect that it's from a loaded question. If you ask people if they would prefer "a third choice" or "someone else" it's likely that you'll get a "yes" from people.
People commonly say they would prefer a third option, and yet when a third party candidate runs, they tend to lose by a wide margin. Even when a third party gets some traction, people don't vote for them.
The reason is that when poll respondents hear that question, they naturally like to imagine a third option who is a strong match with their political positions. But this is, of course, impossible. It's impossible to have a third candidate that meets every dissatisfied voter's wishes.
I'm all for more parties. I wish America had 6 or more political parties. Well, if I'm wishing for things, I'd wish for zero political parties, but that's a bit of a dream, isn't it? However, when 60% of people say they want a third party, it's still not remotely likely that such a party could win. I wish it could happen.
- I bet someone like Donald Trump could have created his own third party.omg
- chukkaphob-1
This Bernie guy selling out and sucking up to Hillary and the DNC is pretty fucking disgusting.
You played with people's emotions and manipulated their minds.
This is worse than anyone else running ... ever.
Backbone? Hardly any. Just a coward not standing up for himself and his followers in light of the DNS emails leakage.
Integrity? Fuck off. Just another power-hungry politician playing politics.
Revolution? Piss off. Just another chess game player manipulating the desperate masses and the gullible youth.
Get out of the public eye already, you phony. What a fraud!
- Uniting the party that united against him? WTF? I call B.S.chukkaphob
- Stand up for what's right and call it like it is; stop being so soft. It's all because he wants back in. Politician to the core!!!chukkaphob
- Agree. Bernie is a sellout. I really tried to watch the DNC tonight but I kept burp throwing up in my mouth a little the longer I watched...robotron3k
- ^Missing the bigger pictureformed
- Realistically he could run third party and lose, or stay within the fold and use his new influence to push the Democrats to the left.yuekit
- Better to lose and have integrity than to do what he's currently doing. The guy is a joke. So over him. But sick of seeing him in the news.chukkaphob
- Hillary conceded to Obama in 2008. Maybe next time.omg
- No next time. Never. Never liked him from the start. Had a feeling from the start that he's not genuine but a cunning manipulative phony.chukkaphob
- If you hated him so much why do you care who he endorses?yuekit
- Safer with Trump or The Lesser Evil with Hill?omg
- I wonder if Wiki will release the next series of emails before or after her Thursday crowning!!?robotron3k
- Sorry, The Lesser Evil with Jill?omg
- I wonder what could possibly be said in part two of those emails that wasn't said already in part one...omg
- @yuekit I never hated him. I care who he endorses because that's telling of his manipulation of the masses. He tricked people. Do you not care about integrity?chukkaphob
- Bernie is just trying to take it for the team. He lost. It's over. What else can he do but try to unite the people? It's an easy decision.since1979
- I dunno, I don't buy for a minute that he is manipulated or tricked people. He could have asked for some kind of personal favor in exchange for endorsing,yuekit
- instead he pushed the Democrats to incorporate his campaign's idea into the party platform.yuekit
- He could have run as an independent. He could have stayed away from endorsing the ones he criticized and ran against!chukkaphob
- The democrats haven't incorporated anything major of his into their platform. Mark my words that none of the little they adopted will ever be implemented.chukkaphob
- for what? he's still a democrat and a senatorsince1979
- The DNC is desperate not for uniting the party but to win over his followers. They're pandering with empty promises (that they'll carry over some of his ideas).chukkaphob
- Pfft. It's all smoke and mirrors. Wool oover people's eyes.chukkaphob
- And he's not uniting; he's polarizing even farther. The ones on the fence, who wanted anti-establishment, are jumping over on Trump's side.chukkaphob
- Bernie and the Democrats were already on the same page on most issues to begin with. It's not like they are on totally opposite sides.yuekit
- The main impediment to getting these things done is not the Democrats but simply the fact that the two parties can't agree on anything.yuekit
- Yes, you are right that Bernie and the DNC were inline with a lot of the ideas and platform bullet points. So here's the other question then:chukkaphob
- Why did he run to begin with? Why did he pretend to be for a "revolution" and "anti-establishment" when he never was and obviously he currently is not.chukkaphob
- If anything, he became a distraction and a polarizing figure in the primaries.chukkaphob
- The "revolution" was about mobilizing young people. I don't think he meant a literal socialist revolution like Chairman Mao or something.yuekit
- My guess would be his goal was what I mentioned above, pushing the party to the left and influencing the future direction.yuekit
- Don't underestimate the value of influencing millions of young voters.yuekit
- He is urging the party to remain united and that's a good thing. He still stands for what he believed in but his campaign is over.monospaced
- Their policies are more realistic than building a $11b border wall or denying gay marriage, if you want to talk about false promisesmonospaced
- You really think trump will follow through with his promise to round up Muslims and water board them until they give up ISIS??????monospaced
- Thats a lot of muslimssince1979
- millions, he says, millions of them hiding among us in the USA, most of which are put there by obama (a muslim too) himself, apparently (according to trump)monospaced
- @mono Nobody is discussing Trump here. Please stay on topic otherwise your comments are distracting and irrelevant.chukkaphob
- @yuekit we can agree to disagree here. However, I do see your side and this has been an interesting exchange/discussion. Thanks for your input.chukkaphob
- since19792
Bill Clinton slaughtered tonight. Dude has mastered the art of the speech.
- such a well spoken man,
I like him, you should check this out
https://www.youtube.…GeorgesII - It must be a 'Bill' thing.since1979
- such a well spoken man,
- since19791
Hilary has to be careful she is going to be trying to inspire the little girls and be a positive role-model but Trump is going to be all "she's playing the woman's card"..
She can't be so obvious with that.
- tank02-3
- hey guys, it's true we're corrupt and we take our orders from corporate donors and the DNC, we coerce media pundit with money.. hmm hey, trump badGeorgesII
- We used to worry about nuclear war against the Ruskies, now we irresponsibly accuse them of hacking our political parties to show how corrupt we are.IRNlun6
- hmmm, first associating Bernie as a Commie in the run up, now associating Trump as a Commie in the primaries. Smells like a Clinton plan to me.robotron3k
- Bernie's association was based on ignorance of what communism is, and as an insult to his financial policies. Trump's association is based on $$$.monospaced
- Comparing the two is pointless, I don't really have to point that out. Regardless, nobody is saying Trump is a commie. Concluding that is moronic.monospaced
- Even more moronic than saying Bernie is a commie.monospaced
- GeorgesII-11
what a shit show,
so much pandering and that's all you end up with?- Clinton nailed it though... and Michelle. You want speeches like those from Trump's camp :)fadein11
- So much and this is YOUR takeaway?monospaced
- well if I was living in lalaland and believe in fairy and pixiedust, I'd probably love their rants too..GeorgesII
- no, you'd be a christian republican, actuallymonospaced
- ;)monospaced
