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  • scarabin0

    sorry about your cancer #MAGA

    • #Make America Grovel Againwhatthefunk
    • How many sons and daughters are thinking the same thing right now about their parents? I know I am...kona
    • sorry to hear that konalowimpakt
    • Luckily even the experts agree Obamacare can be improved immensely. Let's hope Trump can improve the choice of care for all.robotron3k
    • but that is the cost where no market exists, and as stands has 0 cost controls so expect costs to keep going up, subsidized by the healthy. is that right?deathboy
    • How does this work across most of the rest of the civilised world and why doesn't it in the States?detritus
    • Surely the point of a civilised society is for the healthy and able to subsidize and aid those who are not?detritus
    • it doesnt work very well in the world. we could have single payer by just allowing everyone to take from medicare. boom done, but wold it be good?deathboy
    • no it would not. cost controls would come by rationing and ins-hospitals workin together to only offer the most profitable services, not the ones neededdeathboy
    • funny how everyone around an industry has willfully forgotten adam smith just for an illusion of security. its why proponents argue with sad stories not econdeathboy
    • Funnier still how some people ignore the the many countries whose health policies do work and how they misconstrue Adam Smith's views on markets.detritus
    • ..have you even read any of his work, or are you just regurgitating what other people have told you?detritus
    • Besides which, you're pushing a market-driven agenda on what most evolved societies view as within the social domain, beyond mere profiteering.detritus
    • THAT in and of itself is questionable to most people, but not for lower/middle class Republicans, shooting themselves in the foot. Why? Why do you do that?detritus
    • I could understand if you were a multi-multi-millionn... but I assume you're not?detritus
    • oh im quite familiar. so familiar i dont make the mistake of thinking it is in some sort of "social domain" or applying different moral valuesdeathboy
    • You're familiar with Smith, yet confuse his intent and here conflate my opining with his works? Ok? Have you ever even experienced health care outside the US?detritus
    • and you can simply say its a measure of civility but that's untrue. the thing is most healthcare is perfectly affordable and woudl be even more sodeathboy
    • end of life stuff like cancer would be interesting because that stuff has never competed in a free market. it was built around medicare end of life programsdeathboy
    • detritus maybe what i need you to explain is what is your idea of a health program that works? why you think it works and what not.deathboy
    • no ive never needed care outside the states. but i know a few. in germany care sucks, carry private plan, canada uncle died waiting for dialysisdeathboy
    • and what is smiths intent im confusing?deathboy
    • im currently building a hospital ad to promote a inflatable heart exhibit. the whole non-profit status needs to be overhauleddeathboy
    • you're implying that unbridled market forces would better serve as a mechanic to regulate pharma costs, rather than overt government intervention?detritus
    • yup. and saying gov is incapable at providing cost control or quality control better than the market dictatesdeathboy
    • i like to cite these guys as an example of freemarket approach http://surgerycenter…deathboy
    • See, Adams never envisaged the current interpretation of absolutely unbridled markets; futhermore health plans, social-cum- private work well most places else.detritus
    • You're America. You can replicate the best of the world and then demand more, yet you don't. Your incumbencies protect themselves and everyone suffers.detritus
    • There are varying degrees of of 'free' markets. Exp. in other countries proves that it's possible to engage checks & benefit from capitalism at the same time.detritus
    • But he did explain why central economic planning was bound to fail. Which history has proven to be true with current medical pricesdeathboy
    • I think our medical is probably still the best. However the highest cost, which it doesnt need to be. and most other nations stagnatedeathboy
    • there is different markets. what we have in the US is almost market absent, we are going to where euro countries were 30 years ago before adopting more marketdeathboy
    • centric approaches after realizing their systems were unsustainable. politcians here use healthcare as control of peopledeathboy
    • they dont care about anything else. and i cant help but think thats why it was creatd by euro countries in late 1800sdeathboy
    • a huge thing here would be take away incentives for employers to offer healthcare. give ppl more powerdeathboy
    • cap and ration medicare where the care goes to the most likely to benefit instead of 10K month payments on bed ridden geriatrics that are practically deaddeathboy
    • there is a lot you can do without going total free market but have to know the correct direction is the free market one.deathboy
    • we pay more in as percentage of GDP in medicare than most countries whole uni care. all we need to say is its available for everyone and see what happensdeathboy
    • but it wouldn't please many people. because our markets are completely different, culturally and economically.deathboy
    • have a doctor friend in Uk. She fully believes in single payer, yet realizes its faults first hand. to think of something else is blasphemous.deathboy
    • and it fun talking about but i prefer a free market that is cheaper where ppl fall through cracks based on their ability to earndeathboy
    • she prefer universal care with rationing and caps where people fall through cracks based on the system planning.deathboy
    • but that is an example of a culture thing. think the us is still for freedom loving and DIY cultured. Its changing with current edu thoughdeathboy
    • johnd deweys leg work is finally paying off for his central planned utopia but he errord in realizing he creates a place for trump types to lead toodeathboy
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  • kona4

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  • lowimpakt2

    Springsteen cover band pulls out of inauguration.

    so many lols.

    • Springsteen cover band?
      You are joking right?
      utopian
    • Reverse McCarthyism in effectvero_vandal
    • At this rate it's just going to be some tramp playing spoons and Chachi telling 'wog' jokes.face_melter
    • nope, it wasn't worth the angst: http://www.rollingst…BuddhaHat
    • is Reverse McCarthyism a cricket thing, like reverse swing?face_melter
    • not going to be very entertaining. going to SUCKvero_vandal
    • odd how public can influence these entertainers but seldom can we effectively influence our representatives with similar calls...whatthefunk
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  • reanimate1

    Trump attacks NATO and proposes ending sanctions on Russia

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politi…

    • see how puppets worksted
    • and at no point has he given any serious rationale for why sanctions against an autocratic dictatorship that has people murdered for dissent should stopBuddhaHat
    • they couldn't get inspectors into Iran for years to investigate the cessation of enrichment or reprocessing activities, it would be no different or even worseBuddhaHat
    • with Putin's Russia.BuddhaHat
    • #MRGAutopian
    • Trump is quite the badass, dominates the news, makes Europe feel like idiots, scares countries into moving factories, he could be solid US President.robotron3k
    • Omg where are you fed this nonsense?monospaced
    • "makes Europe feel like idiots" - que?fadein11
    • and robo still talks epic bullshit.sted
  • kona4

    We’re about to entrust the presidency to a man experts say is unfit for jury duty.

    http://fusion.net/story/380895/w…

    The headline got me. Well done Trump voters. Well done.

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  • BuddhaHat1

    Georgia County Commissioner Calls Civil Rights Leader John Lewis A ‘Racist Pig’
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/en…

    Say this in the most redneck Georgia voice you possibly can and you're probably getting close:

    “John Lewis is a racist pig,” Hunter wrote on Saturday, according to a screenshot posted by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “There ain’t one political pundit that didn’t say on November 9 that this would be Demonrats EXACT response to Trump winning. Like I heard Rush, I believe say, Demonrats DO NOT live in reality. They believe polls were right and THE REAL VOTES were wrong. What a bunch of idiots.”

    He's citing Rush Limbaugh, a paragon of truth, virtue and equality. We should all bend an ear, y'all.

    • You mean this guy ....
      http://www.ajc.com/r…
      Ramanisky2
    • LOL, that's better than I ever could have expected. He's always keeping one eye 'out' for those demon rats.BuddhaHat
    • hahaRamanisky2
    • These old politicos need to retire. Respect to guys like him and McCain but grandstanding and being disrespectful doesn't help. Lewis is Clinton surrogaterobotron3k
    • if you're saying what I think you are, then go fuck yourself robotard. You couldn't help yourself with the Clinton line, and any remark on respect is hypocrisyBuddhaHat
    • of the highest order. You are disgusting.BuddhaHat
    • You don't like the truth Buddhahat, the Dem party created to KKK to intimidate Black from voting. Get triggered some more.robotron3k
    • Lewis also boycotted GW Bush's first inauguration also, had the same excuse. Another fact.robotron3k
    • You're asking for respect for someone who has shown absolutely none to anybody. Fuck right off. I'm sure if you share your opinions with your co-workers orBuddhaHat
    • relatives, they'd be equally disgusted with you. Jeb helped GW steal his first election in Florida, so Lewis had reasons to boycott that inauguration too.BuddhaHat
  • whatthefunk3

    Trump Won't Use @POTUS Twitter Handle

    @realDonaldTrump I think, I’ll keep it ... so I’ve got 46 million people right now — that’s a lot, that’s really a lot — but 46 million — including Facebook, Twitter and ya know, Instagram, so when you think that you’re 46 million there, I’d rather just let that build up and just keep it @realDonaldTrump, it’s working — and the tweeting, I thought I’d do less of it, but I’m covered so dishonestly by the press — so dishonestly — that I can put out Twitter — and it’s not 140, it’s now 280 — I can go bing bing bing . . . and they put it on and as soon as I tweet it out — this morning on television, Fox — ‘Donald Trump, we have breaking news’.

    http://sfist.com/2017/01/16/trum…

    • Jesus Christmoldero
    • bing bing bing ...
      ffs, that's hilarious
      Ramanisky2
    • hes the only thing keeping twitter alivedeathboy
    • Clownmonospaced
    • I feel like the more quotes I read from him the dummer I feel. Staying away from news for a bit- though it's hard.bklyndroobeki
    • In his last tweet he thought he tagged his daughter but he tagged some lady from the UK called Ivanka https://twitter.com/…lowimpakt
    • i wonder if he'd gotten elected if twitter just shut their company down for a few yearsjaylarson
    • It's getting more and more surreal.fadein11
    • Word salad.monospaced
    • I see his pointdrgs
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  • whatthefunk2

    Cartoonists around the world illustrate their feelings on the new administration


    David Rowe, Australia


    Drew Sheneman, Newark, New Jersey


    Geertje Grom, Netherlands


    Kibooki, England


    Jud Burgess, El Paso, Texas


    David Rowe, Australia

    Full gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/5f26i

  • Ramanisky22

  • whatthefunk2

    Finally, There’s Proof That Donald Trump Has Small Hands

    Editors have printed a life-size image of Trump’s hands, which they created based on a bronzed handprint hanging in the New York branch of Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.

    “Look at those hands, are they small hands?” Trump asked on the debate stage. “And [Rubio] referred to my hands: ‘If they’re small, something else must be small.’ I guarantee you there’s no problem. I guarantee.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/en…

    PDF of Handprint
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com…

    • is this your job to find and post all this stuff or is it all copy pasta from sort of feed?deathboy
    • https://media.giphy.…whatthefunk
    • ^ hahafadein11
    • lolllinteliboy
    • huh i cant quite tell if img is sarcastic or notdeathboy
    • it's not sarcastic, that's really the size of his hands - I couldn't believe it myself at first!whatthefunk
    • no i meant tom guy graphic. i dont care about his hands, and cant understand why anyone else would. its not even funny. unless your orazaldeathboy
    • if so this becomes hilariousdeathboy
    • I too find it hilarious that Trump sends this reporter photos of him with his hands circled in gold marker, crazy right?whatthefunk
    • "... then something else must be small" —Trumpmonospaced
  • whatthefunk1

    He told the Times of London: “One of the first orders I’m gonna sign — day one — which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders.”

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/w…

    • Get to work swamp drainerRamanisky2
    • Fucking waster - the fat pig will cark it before his term is up.face_melter
    • Sunday is for church.monospaced
    • An interview conducted by midget shitheel and rubber-faced cuntflap, Michael Gove. I wonder how long it took to remove his tongue from Trump's rancid arse.face_melter
  • lowimpakt3

    what could have been

  • vero_vandal-6

    What Liberals Can Learn From Little League About Respect And Losing Graciously
    http://thefederalist.com/2017/01…

    Rather than sneering at their opponents, liberals must learn to respect and welcome the open discourse and competing ideas they claim to champion.

    • The irony here is thick because all the left has done for the past 8 years is mock, thwart, disrupt, block, undermine, insult, and sneer at Obama.kona
    • Not even once did they look themselves in the mirror over the past 8 years and say to themselves "We must learn to respect and welcome the open discourse...kona
    • and competing ideas of our President Obama." Again I ask, how many flat out racist pictures of Obama as a monkey came across your FB feedkona
    • you mean right?fadein11
    • these past 8 years. Ask yourself vero_omg_jazx... was that considered "loosing graciously?"

      Fuck right off champ.
      kona
    • Everything kona said.Ramanisky2
    • Dmanit. It's early and I'm running on little sleep. Unfortunately this is just the kind of mistake mouth breather vero will use to redirectkona
    • 50+ bills sent to the senate since 2011 to repeal the ACA, and still no plan to replace.BonSeff
    • It is obvious what you meant and I totally agree.fadein11
    • Kona's FB feed filled with monkeys. That's so sillyomg
    • You must have liked some strange pages or got some weird friends. I've not had one monkey posted on my FB feed.omg
    • monkeys?monospaced
    • kona has monkeys flying across her screen, i kid you not.omg
    • kona has monkeys flying across his screen, i kid you not.omg
    • You think racism is silly?

      My god you are insufferable and have hit a new low with your multiple screen name douchery.
      kona
    • oh dear.fadein11
    • i said monkeys are silly.omg
    • but racism can be silly to i suppose. American Dad, Family Guy, Brickleberryomg
    • your thoughts of trying to pin me as anyone else but myself are also silly.omg
    • why do you mean, monkeys?monospaced
    • just crazy!vero_vandal
    • Kona's race card. Never leave homes without it:
      https://pbs.twimg.co…
      omg
    • are you having another bad day omg?fadein11
    • :)omg
    • omg, I can't see kona's feed, but are you calling black people monkeys?monospaced
  • lowimpakt3

    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

    ― Theodore Roosevelt - 26th President of the United States and leader of the Republican Party

    • quite a different Republican party at that point in time, but great quote! why all the crying by Democrats with people that disagreed with Obama (past 8)?vero_vandal
  • CygnusZero46

    I cant even get over the fact that Trumps supporters are so fucking dumb and clueless, they run around calling people liberals, yet Trump is a lifelong moderate liberal himself, and snowflakes... meanwhile you cannot even find me a bigger weak ass snowflake than Trump.

    Its hilarious lol. No wonder trump ran repub, and said he loves the uneducated. These bottom feeders dont even know who they voted for. All they saw was his dumb lies and rhetoric on the trail, none of which was actually reality.

    • I love your posts in here.fadein11
    • Sadly, many I know are very smart and simply voted "NOT Hillary", some T, some Johnsonformed
    • < no, this is exactly the attitude that got him elected. they know he is a goof. they don't care. they're not dumb and clueless. you're way off base.vero_vandal
    • ^^ exactly @formedvero_vandal