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- sted11
- Oh, Jesus tap-dancing Christ! :Dface_melter
- terrible terry tate! throwback to 2002CygnusZero4
- severian4
A waste of money? Trump's border wall falling flat in Arizona: Reuters/Ipsos poll
The results show that while the New York businessman may have expected his tough stance on immigration to fire up support nationally, it seems to be falling short in a state heavily affected by illegal immigration, and where he is now facing a surprising challenge from his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.
Asked if a wall would be “an effective barrier or a waste of money,” 47 percent of Arizona residents picked “waste of money” and 34 percent picked “effective barrier”, with the rest picking neither, according to the poll. Among Republicans, 21 percent picked "waste of money” and 57 percent picked “effective barrier."
Most Arizonans also believed it is not realistic to expect Mexico to pay for the wall, something Trump has vowed would happen if he’s elected president on Nov. 8, according to the poll.
The results lined up closely with nationwide opinions of Trump’s immigration policy: 49 percent of American adults say the wall would be a “waste of money” and 31 percent say it would be an “effective barrier.”
Arizona’s border with Mexico is 370 miles long, covering an isolated desert terrain that has drawn millions seeking to cross illegally. The state's number of undocumented immigrants has fallen 35 percent from a 2007 peak to 325,000, according to the Pew Research Center, as Arizona cracked down on that population. Nationwide, the number has dropped 9 percent from a high in 2007 to 11.1 million undocumented immigrants.
- Reuters is part of Clinton's evil media circle.omg
- And RT is the very paragon of impartiality and truth, yeah? Sort yourself out, mate.face_melter
- According to this combining Dems and Repubs, 91% says a wall will be an "effective barrier" in Arizona.omg
- Thanks for your Stockholm vote.omg
- No. only 47% say that. Are you that stupid that you don't know how percentages work? Trump must LOVE you.monospaced
- "Effective barrier" dems 34% + republican 57% = 91% combinedomg
- Dumbass. It ends up averaging to 47%. You don't add them like that. Sounds like you took trump level math. Stop now because you're making an idiot of yourself.monospaced
- You would have to have 91% of dems AND 91% of repubs to get 91% of all people. Fact is there are far less than 50% in each. It's pathetic.monospaced
- LOL. Maybe that is the kind of math trump is being told to fabricate the idea he's actually got support. Would explain a lot.monospaced
- It's still an overwhelming response
34% thinks it's a waste of money
46% agrees that it would be an effective border.omg - no, backward again: only 34% think it would be effective, and 47% think it would be a waste of moneymonospaced
- and as we all know, 34% is only overwhelming in one aspect: pathetically lowmonospaced
- ownedinteliboy
- You're probably right. I was in a car trying to read and type this. I'll admit if you're right.omg
- what's scary is that you felt so strongly that you were right, that it was even possible that something that stupid could be so popular and actually argue thatmonospaced
- haha- honestly at the same time you're talking about frivolous numbers that sites opinion. The idea that a wall would work is still valid.omg
- also I wasn't feeling anything. Everything was a discussion of cited numbers to support an idea. There many other ways to support ideas for those who need it.omg
- There was a discussion of numbers, but your PURE feelings made you assume they were in favor of a wall. You didn't cite them or interpret them right at all.monospaced
- And no. There's no real evidence that a wall would solve any major issues, or that Mexico could or would pay for such a fucking stupid thing.monospaced
- omg-5
Making walls is easier than ever.
- Keeping America safe from midget immigrants.severian
- whoa whoa. using the "m" word? that's pretty offensive from a guy supporting immigrationomg
- such vulgar character belongs with the racists and sexists.omg
- I'll call you white trash.severian
- https://www.youtube.…omg
- lol severianmoldero
- Promoting and defending this idiotic and insane wall cannot be separated from blind trump promotion. They are one in the same. God help you.monospaced
- Hillary doesn't have anything to talk about. She doesn't offer anything new to the table.omg
- You're not listening then. And even if that were true, which it's not, it's a shifty reason to vote for trump. Just not logical at all.monospaced
- You didn't read about Hillary's plan to prioritise funding for JPL to investigate raising the entire US landmass into low orbit?face_melter
- And Trump talks about a 'big wall'. How fucking weak is that.face_melter
- LOL. Send me the article.omg
- it's easier for some to grasp a big WALL, as opposed to policies. You know, the complicated things that we pay our politicians to do.inteliboy
- amazing really. it's like an episode of the simpsons. dumb white trash believing the big simple solution.inteliboy
- MMMMMMonorail! http://vignette2.wik…sofakingback
- saw this machine in action last month moving hov lane jersey barrier, awesometerry_cloth
- Why don't they just use cheap, immigrant labour to move it?face_melter
- Mexican government doesn't want to invest into the economy, they just want to take from it.omg
- no, they just don't want to pay for a stupid wall, just like most people on the planetmonospaced
- Ramanisky24
- i really dont get this post. double rainbow? does it have meaning?deathboy
- nvm i guess spanish snakes in the grass trollsdeathboy
- LOL ohhh deathboyRamanisky2
- robotron3k-10
Looks like Hillary is already picking the drapes and china for the Whitehouse, taking her naps, sipping on her Geritol® and consulting with Anna Wintor on her wardrobe, when all if a sudden...
- utopian3
- alec really had his mannerisms and shit down. and strangely, looks almost exactly like himCygnusZero4
- he got better, the first one wasn't very good. I think he's got him down pretty good now. She rocks as Hilary... its not exact. butsofakingback
- its almost like what you know she's like under the public personasofakingback
- His impression is good, but the writing on SNL continues to suck.yuekit
- I agree, there were some moments I thought: this part should be funny and they failed to capitalize on a jokesofakingback
- She doesnt sound like hillary that much. Too much overacting from her.CygnusZero4
- IRNlun6-2
- https://i.sli.mg/lql…omg
- so much head...sofakingback
- Who doesn't know how to do this? Sheeeeeezseverian
- This is the shit I hate about politicians. Can't even pore a pint.teh
- "when you dont have policies, appeal to emotions"
<-Hyurimon - "when you don't have a point, shitpost"
<-Yface_melter - he posting a campaign photo op. whats your point, you got triggered from a photo up trying to promote her?yurimon
- yuri, did you really not catch the sarcasm?monospaced
- i think its you who lost the sarcasm. factyurimon
- you literally asked "what's your point," which is admitting you missed the sarcasm. incrediblemonospaced
- so "triggered" lol. How dirty does it make you feel to regurgitate everything you're told to say by the media. Just vomit, all of it. * blwhahahagakhakhakgh...sofakingback
- whatthefunk3
- he can't trademark a random word just because it happens to be his name ... what a childish little bitch he ismonospaced
- Lawyers sendin' letters, gettin' paidnb
- Dude who owns Nissan.com (family name) has been battling for years http://nissan.com/whatthefunk
- Reminds me of this story...pretty funny
http://www.motherjon…yuekit - cybersquatters suck. so many good domain names lost to useless placeholdersomg
- in this case it's not useless at allmonospaced
- "when you dont have policies, appeal to emotions"
<-Hyurimon - dumbass, you act like Clinton is squatting on this, but she's notmonospaced
- this is feels based propagation.yurimon
- lol yeah? how so?monospaced
- yurimon.comsted
- nb-2
hehe
- every 4 years. true.sofakingback
- Wait, to be accurate, but shouldn't the British girl she's talking to be wearing a burqua??robotron3k
- ^ why?fadein11
- oh he actually believes Clinton is THE isis founder and plans to turn America over to sharia law as her first order of business as president. Seriously he doesmonospaced
- Fuck are you talking about robo? I can't decide if you are on the wind up, touched in the head, or just a wanker.face_melter
- yuekit4
Trump's campaign manager: "we are behind"
http://www.latimes.com/nation/po…
So is she part of the rigged election conspiracy too? Keep in mind that with early voting the campaigns can see the data in real time in terms of who is requesting ballots. I think I read somewhere that about half of the electorate will vote before election day.
If Trump does lose and Republicans get shut out of the presidency for 12, maybe 16 years, you would think that would be a time for them to start asking some questions about why they failed to win people over instead of just blaming "rigged" system.
- it would probably because their voter base didnt see enough rewards in it. religion and desire for self defense is dying. the left has all the carrots to selldeathboy
- sucks but i could see a euro slight difference of socialism take over. too many ppl think the gov is used to provide basics. and let them define basicsdeathboy
- a jill stein vs hillary clinton crowds on level of what they do for Udeathboy
- Trump did promise a lot of things to his supporters though starting with the wall. It was pretty much a right wing wish fulfillment he was selling.yuekit
- IS sellingmonospaced
- robotron3k-6
- Grrrrrrrr...robotron3k
- do you honestly believe this shit lol?fadein11
- lolz. people said the same shit when obama was elected. not 1 major attack here in 8 years. hmmm....CygnusZero4
- theres been some homegrown terrorist events, people that were us citizens, but thats itCygnusZero4
- ^ it comes out of policies if examine it closely, derpity doo.yurimon
- ^ yep Republican neo con Bush policies - not Obama policies.fadein11
- ^ same thing just different branding you and some people fall for. he could have changed but nope did the same thingyurimon
- omg-7
What will you do with all the tax savings you will receive once the new president takes office?
- A more important question, WHO will she be wearing at the inauguration??robotron3k
- A suit made from Trump's skin.face_melter
- Lol, just like we saw black division with Obama, we'll see more percieved victim-hood by Western women with Hillary...robotron3k
- just like we saw more racists come crawling out with Obama, we'll see more misogynists like you coming out with her, acting the victimmonospaced
- because let's face it, you feel a great wrong is being done to this country by electing someone with a vagina, admit itmonospaced
- ^oh god you are still at it, with that stupid fallacies? I'm sure its very feminist to defend a rapist husband.yurimon
- not at all ... this is what robotron3k has actually saidmonospaced
- the only fallacy is that the feels-based belief that obama increased racial divisionmonospaced
- if he had a son he would look just like you. full of feels.yurimon
- mmm hmmm ... rightmonospaced
- remember stuff like that, based on feels?yurimon
- or comments like that unify based on facts?yurimon
- lowimpakt3
Trump debates immigration with Reagan and H Bush
- yurimon-10
- lol even trump is starting to back off these corny sore loser excusesCygnusZero4
- Its good this coming out in the open. revealing the corrupt like yourself.yurimon
- Since we're still paying off the debts they've accumulated to this country, they deserve to vote.omg
- dbloc1
- I can smell the sulfur from here, a demon straight from hell.Ramanisky2
- Reptilian eyes, Icke was rightyuekit
- a forked tongued demonRamanisky2
- So crooked, so so crookedRealDonaldTrump
- CROOKED HILLARY! so crooked, and look at that FACE!
did i mention she was crooked folks? well she is, believed me!RealDonaldTrump
- sted4
- omg-2
Do we still need to pay the debts of dead citizens? If so, they deserve to vote too.
- No fucking joke this is literally the 5th moronic conspiracy that you have peddled, and next in line to be proven wrong and as utter butthurt stupiditymonospaced
- What happened to the fatal case of epilepsy?monospaced
- anything is conspiracy if it challenges monos views.yurimon
- yeah yea yeah, we know you believe them all too yuri, you don't need to remind usmonospaced