Help Justin
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- Paul
Justin lost everything, including both of his pets, to a fire that broke out at his apartment on Wed. August 13th.
- gramme0
Horrible news, but did they not have renter's insurance?
- set0
Funny really, there are millions of people without any possessions, shelter or food around the world, and just become some guy had all of it before and suddenly lost it he becomes an important case.
I don't mean to be a wanker and I feel for the guy, its a great shame Im sure, but its interesting to think about.
Its like the person who doesn't care about gun crime until their son gets shot and then its all of a sudden a complete outrage.
Just being a wanker really, pointing out the human condition, hope the guy gets sorted out.
- wordfourthgen
- maybe its the official sentement that this thread gets. where before, it felt like it was a friend posting about friendMrDinky
- I just think personally if Im going to share my hard earned money it'd be to some poor fucker that hasn't eaten in two weeksset
- thanks for your worldy observationwhiteout
- he was a regular to QBN and a friend to many. That is why, wanker.morilla
- +1
whos justin?drgs_not_hugs
- set0
Don't really want to start a debate because Im not on either side of the argument, just thought it was an interesting point to raise.
- cannonball0
What about homeowner's insurance?
- I think he just moved there this month or so and maybe didnt get it yet.same
- MrDinky0
hench i think it is a good point. what if it was one of the designer who doesnt have more well known friends who has the power to publicize it more? or what if he wasnt even talented? would no one care?
i dont think its that people dont care, its more about receptiveness of the message depending on who and where they said it.
i remember when one of the guy here said he only could afford bread to eat for about 3-4 weeks before he could get paid, someone just sent him like $100 to help out. it happens. but depends on how close with you are with that person.
i guess in this sad tragedy maybe there is an experiment that can be measured on communal behavior with the design(?) online community.
- JKristofer0
Hench, worse then bad can always be found.
Maybe if you take that position, then when you do hear about someone in a similar situation as Justin, perhaps you might consider using the situation as a reminder and donate to a charity that does strike a nerve with you?
Hey, at least something good can come out of Justins situation and you can do more than just draw comparisons to someone who is worse off.
- set0
As I said, I'm not starting a moral debate here.
If someone wants to help him out, cool.
If someone doesn't want to help him out, cool.It was just an interesting point I thought I would share.
- JKristofer0
But you did start a moral debate.
- Paul0
You can always count on the crew on NT to get deep.
I just want to thank everyone that has helped. He's one of my best friends, so I'm just trying to help out the way I know how to.
- ninjasavant0
The way I see it is that there's a lot of people in need, I used to be one of them. When I was sleeping in my car, and couch surfing, and surviving off of other people's leftovers. I was damn glad that I had my health but more importantly I was grateful to the people who picked up a meal for me and let me sleep on their couch so I could get through school.
Other people having it worse helped keep things in perspective but its true, its a lot different when its your life. And I'm really sorry about all of the people in the world who suffer, its part of the reason why I participate so heavily in microfinance at kiva.org and charitable donations.
The thing about Justin's situation is that he doesn't live in a third world country, he lives in (some of) our country and to a broader extent, all of our society. We've set a standard of living that is hard to live beneath. Even when I had nothing at least I had something. Right now Justin has more nothing than I ever did and in this society thats a hard road to look down.
Its because of the kindness of friends and strangers that I've made it this far. And its because of their kindness that I want to help everyone I can. If Jusin's situation doesn't move you to help then sobeit. But the fact that you are on a computer reading this shows that you have more than most in the world and I hope you realize your position and help bring somebody get closer to surviving.
- well put my friend.lvl_13
- Amen. Those are some powerful words.Gucci
- +1Jaline
- Stellar POV my friend, well said.brandwidth
- jaylarson0
I hope my $10 helps. Good luck. I hope the money makes it to you Justin.
- morilla0
This isn't about all the people in the world who have it worse off. It is about Justin. He was a regular here and a friend to many.
We should consider ourselves lucky to have people here willing to help out.
- 23kon0
Its nice that people are willing to help someone out by donating.
The fact that you have done that Paul is a nice thing to do.However you are abusing your privilidge as an Editor to put this in as an Editors choice are you not?
Yes, you might know him and he's a good friend to you - but most of the users on here won't know the guy so why would/should they donate?Does that mean if a friend of mine or a designer/programmer i know gets turfed out of their home or comes down with a critical illness I will be able to count on QBN posting it up as a Editors Choice to try raise some money??
What's good for the Goose should also be good for the Gander.
I think that's maybe the point that Hench was trying to raise but it was taken by everyone as "why should i give him money".
- AllenF0
Its funny that Hench doesnt want to start a moral debate, but the reason Paul has started this whole "Help Justin," is because of where his morals are.
Around 2 years ago while I was at college, a roommate of mine paralyzed himself while diving into a pool. He shattered his 5th vertebrae (C5), leaving him confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. He was in the intensive care unit as well as rehab for over 5 months. He was without insurance. Now paint a mental picture of how much something like that would cost.
Close friends of his, as well as myself included, put forth a valiant effort to raise money for his medical bills. We had fund raisers, like what Paul has done, as well as concerts with bands that we knew around the area. Hundreds of strangers who didnt even know him came out, showed support and donated.
You dont need to know Justin, or for that fact like Justin, but what you can do is try and relate to the position he has been put in. I know for a fact that he will rise back to the top because he is just that kind of person. But to have everything you've owned, everything you've worked for diminish right in front of your eyes has to be like a knife to the heart.
I pray that Justin (and Nicole), get back on track to re-starting their life again. I do not feel that people need to publicly bash Justin for the situation he has been put in, nor do I think that Paul needs to be scrutinized for trying to be a good friend.
All I ask is you put yourself in his shoes. If you lost everything, wouldnt you want your friends there to help support you?
I think I made my point,
Allen
(Justins Brother)
- calculator0
I don't Justin is getting a bashing. Paul maybe is a bit.
Hench did end his first comment with this:
"Just being a wanker really, pointing out the human condition, hope the guy gets sorted out."
- neue75_bold0
it's about people helping people, help people, ffs...
- 23kon0
my point was...
OK, so if someone else knows of someone in need of help, will they be able to ask QBN to put a link to it in the Editors choice?
Im not saying its a good or bad thing to donate money and whether people should or not
Im suggesting that Paul is maybe abusing his right as an Editor by posting this, that is all.
- neue75_bold0
Would be cool if the QBN editors came together and made some posters or something that we could buy/bid on them with all proceeds going to Justin...
- why the editors?
why not have an open comp. think it'd raise the standards23kon - good idea 23kondyspl
- thought if it came from them, you lot would have less of a problem with it being posted here...neue75_bold
- How about lets do some posters to raise money for the 3rd world...set
- it's been done to death...neue75_bold
- yea saving starving children is so cliche these days. FUCK OFF!set
- slightly over the top F-OFF there no malicious intent here, but seriously now... overdone?set
- I was kidding...neue75_bold
- but it has been done, and successfully, http://www.designedt…
thus it's a good idea..neue75_bold - http://www.designgiv…flavorful
- i see rybo inspiration top right there 75!set
- why the editors?
- dyspl0
Paul might be abusing his right as an editor, but in the end all I see is that he does his best to help a friend, which is what really matter.
- sometimes abusing your right can lead to good things like us discussing and thinking about solutions and other peoples welfare in general.brandwidth
- rubbish! abusing things leads to getting "Strikes" from QBN then being banned23kon
- you cant write threads challenging the way the site is run so why should be allowed to editors abuse rights?23kon