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  • CALLES

    Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher

    JERUSALEM (AFP) - High on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments, an Israeli researcher claimed in a study published this week.

    Such mind-altering substances formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times, Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.

    "As far Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Shanon told Israeli public radio on Tuesday.

    Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush," suggested Shanon, who said he himself has dabbled with such substances.

    "The Bible says people see sounds, and that is a clasic phenomenon," he said citing the example of religious ceremonies in the Amazon in which drugs are used that induce people to "see music."

    He mentioned his own experience when he used ayahuasca, a powerful psychotropic plant, during a religious ceremony in Brazil's Amazon forest in 1991. "I experienced visions that had spiritual-religious connotations," Shanon said.

    He said the psychedelic effects of ayahuasca were comparable to those produced by concoctions based on bark of the acacia tree, that is frequently mentioned in the Bible.

    This is my entry for todays irrelevant thread... I guess i have talked to god myself every now and then

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2008…

    Mar 4, 08, 7:10 a.m. – Permalink
  • detritus

    Manna = shrooms.

    We filthy hippies have known that for decades.

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:17 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    Interesting. In fact alot of the mystical practices from that time period and up through the turn of the first millenium in Jewish practices has been completely whitewashed...now it's all legalese torah all the time, but Judaism definitely dabbled in it's share of mystics...they're embarrassed about it now...

    But then again all this stuff was to keep primitive farmers in line and bowing down to the big Sky Daddy representative on earth...

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:18 a.m. – Permalink
  • Corvo

    Do they have to demystify everything?

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:21 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    Funny, I only had three commandments when I talked to god. One involved drinking heavily, then there was something about breats..and I forgot what the third one was, but I think it had something to do with squeezing the toothpaste tube from the bottom, always...

    • He was hanging out on the mountain to get a bird's eye view of the big breat-si-sis.– Mimio
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:29 a.m. – Permalink
  • Mimio

    The dogma and legalese take away from what they may have actual discovered about the human consciousness. It's good that they recorded it somehow I suppose.

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:29 a.m. – Permalink
  • vrmbr

    haha i knew that book was written under the influence.

    • hahaha, of course it was.– Jaline
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:29 a.m. – Permalink
  • detritus

    I think the opposite - all the mystical bullshit is what detracts from The Truth - it's too subjective for laypersons to comprehend.

    The little 'Legalese Torah' I've read into actually seems like an application of moral conduct applied to the real world. Less a religion than an instruction book for living well.

    It's funny, the only reason I check my shitty facebook account is to read the 'Jewish Thought for the Day' I have plugged in there - and I nigh-on always find myself agreeing with it. It's just good, sound advice, from our friends at the Chabad on Campus International Foundation.

    Today, for instance..

    "Fighting Crime
    If you tell a child, “Keep this rule because if you don’t you will be punished!” the child has two doubts in his mind: Maybe he won’t be caught, and if he is caught, maybe the punishment won’t outweigh the crime.

    The child has to know that there is an eye that sees, an ear that hears --that there is a Higher Unseen Being to which he is answerable. This is the only way to reduce crime"

    I hate God, but I can't not agree with that shit.

    • I think you need one part mysticism to four parts utilitarian instruction...– TheBlueOne
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:36 a.m. – Permalink
  • 734

    so youre saying that none of you actually exist and im just having a drug induced hallucination of being on the internet talking to designers around the world?

    ... you are all in my head, please dont break anything

    • who said we are designers?– vrmbr1/2
      moses told me– 7342/2
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 7:57 a.m. – Permalink
  • hiatus

    † for ∞!

    deal meng, its all a lil wishy-washy. Didnt they write the Bible about 5thousand years after all the 1st Testiment??? and if it was all handme down via verbal story for that long doesnt someone mess it up or change it. And I'm sure it(Bible) was written by man...sorry I mean A Man. Would the Bible be different if also writtin by woMan??

    also question. do you need to get baptised to get married in a Cathlic Church. I've heard a few different things....and I'm walking down that path(pondering)

    help a N*gg@ out

    thanks peeps!
    -one:D

    • can someone translate this post?– vrmbr1/8
      you no speak it English?? :)

      its a RANT      – hiatus2/8
      you do have to be baptised... and do a bunch of other stuff– CALLES3/8
      by "Other stuff" he means altar boys– flashbender4/8
      ha ha ha– vrmbr5/8
      I saw something about Nigga… that's all I recall.
      – Point56/8
      speaking in tongues?– wendog7/8
      you don't have to be baptized... they make you sign some kind of waiver saying something like when you have kids you will baptize them.. it might have changed though...
      – sea_sea8/8
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 8:07 a.m. – Permalink
  • morilla

    Where is he, thought he would be in this thread or has the Flage gone away?

    • I thought he was Teleos or something now?– TheBlueOne1/3
      it's spring break dude... he is in Gomorrah for a whole week– CALLES2/3
      That sandwich board listing the sins of the world must be killer hot.– Mimio3/3
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 8:57 a.m. – Permalink
  • teleos

    There's not much to say, really. It's just empty speculation sans evidence (that Moses was trippin').

    The Hebrew scriptures are truly the Word of God, in my opinion, for numerous reasons. Not the least of which is the over sixty messianic prophecies about Christ and which were fulfilled in Christ. The OT is replete with foreshadowing of the coming messiah.

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 10:19 a.m. – Permalink
  • sikma

    maybe he was just crazy

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 10:21 a.m. – Permalink
  • CALLES

    naybe he was just a long haired homeless hippie living in comune.... does it ring a bell?

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 10:26 a.m. – Permalink
  • robotron3k

    Apparently this whole Christiananity-Judisam Religion thing is a big hoax made up by Priests to tax and control the people!!!!

    I tell ya, who would have thunk it!?? check out the first part of Zietgiest...

    • There's lots of bad scholarship and plain distortions throughout that piece of garbage..– TheBlueOne1/4
      What? The Bible?– Mimio2/4
      That too...– TheBlueOne3/4
      I call bullshit on this. made up– Llyod4/4
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 10:30 a.m. – Permalink
  • dskz

    yeah, I could see that.

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 10:45 a.m. – Permalink
  • peteski

    http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/09/24/alg_mets-alou.jpg

    HGH?

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 10:58 a.m. – Permalink
  • Llyod

    Moses was badass at hacky sack too

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 12:29 p.m. – Permalink
  • gramme

    Zeitgeist is a steaming load of badly researched horse shit. Perhaps a full notch below the DaVinci Code in sheer bullshittery. Their research into Egyptian pantheism, for one, is totally mistaken on the substance of Egyptian religious lore. Same w/ the other major religions they discuss. Even between Islam and Judaism, two religions whose roots are intrinsically entwined through the line of Abraham (or Ibrahim), are fundamentally different in their prescribed means of salvation and understanding of divinity.

    Thus, the parallels the Zeitgeist crowd draw to Christianity and Judaism are entirely baseless.

    • Either way, religion breeds god fearing loonies.– czawada
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 12:36 p.m. – Permalink
  • mrdobolina

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki…

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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 12:41 p.m. – Permalink
  • mrdobolina

    It's all crap, if you think every animal on the planet was represented on a big boat, you are a loon. If you think that we all came from one man and one woman, you are a loon.

    • an inbred loon– 7341/5
      actually it has been proven through mitochondrial dna that we all came from 1 woman 125k yrs ago– Llyod2/5
      Where did she come from though, Lloyd?– detritus3/5
      is that Alice? When they say that they don't mean one woman but one species– mrdobolina4/5
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    Dog-earMar 4, 08, 12:43 p.m. – Permalink

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