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  • Faction18

    Top Chicago ad exec Paul Tilley, 40, dies apparently of suicide.

    DDB creative executive who oversaw marquee accounts such as Dell, McDonald's:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/ne…

    Feb 28, 08, 4:03 a.m. – Permalink
  • kelpie

    we're all headed there people.

    Hear this.

    • it's like the guys who dropped the bomb on hirsohima– Randd
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:07 a.m. – Permalink
  • Spookytim

    I sent him one of my promotional mailers yesterday. What a tragic waste.

    I could have re-labelled it.

    • Is that in bad taste I wonder.– Spookytim1/4
      Dunno. Let's see the mailer.– JerseyRaindog2/4
      For a minute there I thought I was going to be insensitive alone.– Spookytim3/4
      Hahahaha...erm...I mean shame on you!– uncle_helv4/4
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:09 a.m. – Permalink
  • moth

    My old CD went that way a few months back.

    • Really? Why are all these creatives topping off I wonder?– Spookytim1/3
      i have my theories.– moth2/3
      Lets hear em Moth if you wish to share. I'm interested.– Spookytim3/3
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:13 a.m. – Permalink
  • skt

    you can only be told to make something pop so many times by a client.

    • pop? POP?! I"LL MAKE IT FUCKING POP!
      *kaboom      – kelpie1/3
      hahaha, this is bad to laugh about, sorry..– vrmbr2/3
      but hahahahahaha..– vrmbr3/3
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:17 a.m. – Permalink
  • ian

    I was gonna link up that Bill Hicks speech about how marketing/advertising people should kill themselves, but restrained. Its is sad, especially for the family left behind wondering why it happened.

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:17 a.m. – Permalink
  • Leigh

    onother creative director .......

    http://www.thelondonpaper.com/cs…
    ?packedargs=aid%3D1157150243599…

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:24 a.m. – Permalink
  • Leigh

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/home…

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:26 a.m. – Permalink
  • moth

    That is my old CD - by the by.

    • i had to read that sun page more than once to be sure– maximillion_1/3
      dude, really sorry to hear that moth. my sentiments if it affected you dude.– madirish2/3
      which agency?– Leigh3/3
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:37 a.m. – Permalink
  • maximillion_

    fuck me leigh that moths ex-CD

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:39 a.m. – Permalink
  • Spookytim

    Here's my theory.

    1. On a personal level
    Its ultra high pressure. Everyone expects you to produce a succesful solution every time without fail... its not possible to do one project badly. You have to somehow be creatively at your best in avariety of scenarios and always under the same pressures

    2. On a philosophical level
    You (we) are the people selling this planet into oblivion. The whole shitty mess we're in is the result of aspirational desire which is created by marketing and creative thinking, so you find yourself one day selling the world to hell in a matt black handbasket and you realise the position of responsibility to hold for the state of things.

    3. On a Financial level
    You can't believe your luck when you hit pay dirt for the first time and immediately construct a lifestyle around yourself to reflect your status and opulence. Your due status and opulence always exceeds your actual wealth by 4 times so you go from being immeasurably rich to being seriously indebted within a year. You have so much to support then, so much to maintain, and your loving family expects this of you.

    You know you can't maintain point 01, and you know you're being chased by point 02, and you could give up and dave yourself but for the details of point three. You are trapped by expectation, by obligation, by pride so you reach for the emergency exit.

    • "dave yourself" is a high level expression meaning errr, "Save Yourself"– Spookytim1/5
      I took it to mean simplify your life, become everyman.– kelpie2/5
      well coined.– kelpie3/5
      The clever work was done by you Kelpie, I merely hit the wrong key.– Spookytim4/5
      i think you are spot on spookytim.– linearch5/5
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:39 a.m. – Permalink
  • chossy

    Bloody hell moth :/

    So terrible that people find that their only solution in life must be to end it. Pain is sometimes unbearable.

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:43 a.m. – Permalink
  • moth

    I like to think I'll pack my bags and walk the earth if I got that down about my lot.

    I'd like to think I'd just run away...

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:49 a.m. – Permalink
  • blaw

    The difference is, moth, that a lot of (most, even?) suicides occur when there is a underlying level of severe depression. Kinda rules out the option of a what-have-I-got-to-lose adventure.

    Sorry to hear this hit so close to home for you.

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 4:56 a.m. – Permalink
  • Spookytim

    I got off the corporate crack addiction before it overwhelmed me but I always found that the more money I earned, the more pressure I was put under and the less financially well off I was also. I reached a water margin with my salary beyond which i was always hopelessly in debt. I had a really good salary in my last ever job but...

    I rented a flat in the middle of London that would be expensive for two people and paid it on my own, I drove a brand new car which I got on a ludicrous repayment scheme and I paid for stuff on credit cards and never ever managed my finances at all. The credit cards started as a work related thing (buying goods on work research trips) but rapidly got out of hand and became my sole source of finance when my monthly income was going straight out of my account to pay for my lavish lifestyle. So before I knew it I was horribly horribly in debt, yet I had this huge salary!

    That's why I walked and just do what I do now. I'll never be rich like this, I know, but I wont ever be as fucked as I was back then.

    • you daved yourself.

      well done dave.      – kelpie1/2
      haha yeah, I totally daved myself.– Spookytim2/2
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 5:02 a.m. – Permalink
  • madirish

    “With the agent stood just a few feet away, he suddenly leapt on a ledge and through a window.”

    holy hell....

    • an artist loves the gesture– capsize1/7
      he leaves two daughters without a father? Coward.– capsize2/7
      Wrong guy dude.– moth3/7
      wrong victim capsize– maximillion_4/7
      always 1 step behind mike!– maximillion_5/7
      People intrinsically creative never do anything predominantly for money. People intrinsically business orientated rarely do anything for anything other than money. Advertising professes to marry both but 99.9% of the time this is impossible...all causing massive internal conflict.– babaganush6/7
      People intrinsically new to QBN always type more than side-notes can accomodate.– Spookytim7/7
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 5:35 a.m. – Permalink
  • Faction18

    I was really shocked by this - and now looking and the incident in the UK I am pretty disturbed. I am just hoping this isn't the start of some new "trend" - for lack of a better word. I definitely agree with Spookytim's points from above, and think that as a whole there does need to be some soul searching done for and by our industry. But suicide? I'm well aware of the pressure to perform in this field, but I wouldn't have thought that it would lead down this path.

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 6:45 a.m. – Permalink
  • Spookytim

    Babaganush says:
    People intrinsically creative never do anything predominantly for money. People intrinsically business orientated rarely do anything for anything other than money. Advertising professes to marry both but 99.9% of the time this is impossible...all causing massive internal conflict.

    And I'm putting it here becuase A) Its interesting and B) s/he'd tried to fit it all in a side note!

    • ooops– babaganush1/2
      4 lines maximum Babaganush. I reposted cuz it was worth reading, hope you don't mind.– Spookytim2/2
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 6:58 a.m. – Permalink
  • Leigh

    wonder if this guy has done the same?

    http://www.publicisinteractive.c…

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?i…

    • I think so. That's why this thread interested me. Its seems 'creatives' are on the egde.– Spookytim
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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 7:01 a.m. – Permalink
  • babaganush

    Unfortunately it seems basing your life on pursuing being 'creative' is inextricably linked to highs and lows...the most severe lows resulting in depression I guess. Continuously being creative, I guess means constantly needing new challenges, being original - therefore rare moments of prolonged satisfaction and stability.

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 7:13 a.m. – Permalink
  • Spookytim

    Depression and self doubt. Times where I look at what I do and hate it so much I get close to tearing it all up and staring again with the metaphorical blank canvas. In fact i have done so twice in my life already, but now I have a child to support so can't do that again, otherwise right now I would be tearing Studiospooky down, burning all my bridges and walking into the unknown with nothing, just for the feeling of freedom and the removal of pressure that comes before the fear and new pressure kicks in.

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    Dog-earFeb 28, 08, 7:18 a.m. – Permalink

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