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- PeterPancake0
Four Thought - Stories of Terrorism
Benedict Wilkinson challenges how we think about terrorism and uses stories of two very different terrorists to make the case for a different approach.
Benedict is a senior research fellow at the Policy Institute at King's College, London, and researches the strategies of different terrorist groups. He argues that terrorists' embrace of violence always comes from a position of weakness, and that it frequently fails to achieve their own political objectives.
As a result, he argues that the way in which we confront terrorists needs serious reconsideration.
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/media… (15 minutes)
- R4 link - http://www.bbc.co.uk…Fax_Benson
- this doesn't have a fucking thing to do with pancakesPonyBoy
- lol, tru. i save my propaganda for COTD https://i.imgur.com/…PeterPancake
- Gnash4
- Reminds me of the gun argument—folks blaming the Faith and not the loony murderous person—Just like blaming guns...and not the loony murderous person.PonyBoy
- ooooOOOOOOOH YEAH!!! who'd I trigger?!!
:DPonyBoy - ^ lolGnash
- nothing wrong with moderate gun nuts, it's the fundamentalist gun nuts that cause the problems.Fax_Benson
- that faith also tells people to feed the poor and respect everything that God created. Guns don't feed people. They just kill. Comparing them is idiotic.Beeswax
- guns feed peopleGnash
- the majority of gun owners in the USA are moderate use them for hunting, it's only the extremist minority use them against peopleGnash
- not unlike religion.Gnash
- lol - like the gun issue is about hunting rifles.fadein11
- its not about a ban either - isn't it about making it slightly harder for nuts to get them?fadein11
- lol -- the point always seems to whizz over your head.Gnash
- that was about as ELI5 as one could get. ask your kids to explain it to youGnash
- oh trust me I got your point.fadein11
- your response indicate that you didn'tGnash
- I totally see why you need an AR15 with a bump stock to shoot an Elk...see_thru
- ^ you don't, obviously.Gnash
- Your posts only ever make one point ;)fadein11
- you usually miss most everyones point, not just mine. that's your defining characteristic on hereGnash
- Yours are not hard to decipher chumpfadein11
- I do miss your daily mockery of young people though, bring that shit backfadein11
- maybe you're not as simple as you project, perhaps you just have bad luck when thinking.Gnash
- Like I said, there is little to tax my brain when reading your posts. I look forward to more. Get back to your core subjects though, people you dislike. Have afadein11
- nice eve.fadein11
- lol. you are the Dunning–Kruger poster boy :)
https://en.wikipedia…Gnash - it's like talking to my neighbours 7 year oldGnash
- Only 1% of the total U.S & 3% of Canada is Muslim. Their financial power is even less than that. They are the least threat to your precious life.Beeswax
- You're just a tool man. They feed you with their bullshit theories and you just eat it. Why you love to eat is a whole different matter.Beeswax
- I'm not afraid of muslims, dopey dope. I'm just point out that your analogy is retarded.Gnash
- you're quick to throw everyone in the same bag because you're too intellectually lazy to think it through.Gnash
- you have every freedom to defend whatever ideology you like -- i could care less. make a stupid point and I'll call it out.Gnash
- you hide behind a curtain of sanctimony and pretend you have some moral high ground. pfft. just another ignorant, magical-sky-god worshipper.Gnash
- how's your faith treating the kurds -- feeding the poor ones and respecting all gods creations? please.Gnash
- religion is worse than a gun. thinking otherwise is idiotic, as you say.Gnash
- millions of people have died in the name of religion, few have died in the name of weapons._niko
- Also, name me one good thing religion has done that wasn't being done by pagans like the ancient Greeks or Romans. Morals? ethics? laws? they had plenty._niko
- ^ apparently feed the poor and respect all gods creationsGnash
- yeah seriously, no way the ancient greeks had a word for philanthropy._niko
- Gnash is just an angry little man who doesn't like people different to him. Sad!fadein11
- lol. you're such a moron fadein. blessGnash
- (i'm 6'4" and quite happy. u? i guess balding, glasses, thin-lipped, bad skin, and short)Gnash
- haha - and you call me a child.fadein11
- having trouble with reality?Gnash
- the only people I mock are simpleminded ones how try and project their righteousness as anything other than regurgitated virtue. hence, you.Gnash
- i could care less about what people look like. it's ideas that matter, dummy.Gnash
- (except for short, balding, thin-lipped and myopic muppets)Gnash
- haha - you have lost your shit on this thread because a few people disagreed with you.fadein11
- please share more of your ideas, preferably about silly 18 year olds finding their feet in life. Or gender... bring back the gender! lol. pratt.fadein11
- and like I said, angry.fadein11
- ah, the go-to argument of the intellectually lazy -- throw out the bigot or race card.Gnash
- you're a caricature. a stereotype mouthing your virtue like a trained organ monkey.Gnash
- well done.Gnash
- ah the go to argument for someone who doesn't like being disagreed with - "you're stoopid". Who mentioned bigot or race by the way?fadein11
- Although if I had the time I could show many examples of that from you.fadein11
- lol, exactly. of course you can. you're a lazy thinker.Gnash
- you seem unable to have an original thought. all your mewlings are pre-packaged sentiments. children can be given a pass on that, it's sad for a grown man.Gnash
- read more, perhaps outside your bubble. stretch a bitGnash
- I look forward to seeing some of your original thinking soon, please educate me in the ways of gnash.fadein11
- robotron3k-1
guy dressed in black walks into a Denver Walmart, shoots people and walks out...
live feed:
- https://www.nytimes.…robotron3k
- smells more likely a vendetta, than terrorismGnash
- OBBTKN1
- Attack a place of worship - of their own religion - then people attempting to flee, then ambulances. Nice, brave fuckers.detritus
- very sad...notype
- Shit... cuntsmugwart
- awful. way higher death toll now as well.
if only god didn't invent religion.fadein11 - Up to 235 now. No one has claimed responsibility yet, but ISIS has targeted Sufis in the past.IRNlun6
- FUCking hell_niko
- Fucked up. Civilians as well.sureshot
- Ottomans have scraped this Wahhabi fucks off the earth 200 years ago until Brits came and gave them power to get a share of their oil.This is where we are nowBeeswax
- https://en.wikipedia…Beeswax
- Yeah, yeah, but the Ottomans slaughtered over a million Armenians, had slaves until the 20th century and sided with Germany in WWI. History's a bitch, ain't it?detritus
- the Wahhabists are more the fault of a backward internal culture in SA than external interference. If we'd not meddled, someone else would've.detritus
- They were an insignificant people sat on top of a new form of energy reserve with no internal means of extraction - in an age of burgeoning empires.detritus
- the sooner islam sorts itself out the better. tho, as it took christian sects hundreds of years to stop killing each other, i'm not holding my breathhans_glib
- True that, but we are arming and creating these craziesmugwart
- all those sects are god driven to annihilate each other. Wahhabism's no worse than the others.Gnash
- the Ahmadi have some chill, but all the sects come together to hate them. funny that.Gnash
- Religion of peacei_was
- the "religion of peace" phrase is idiotic. no offencelowimpakt
- over 200 people die and it isn't on major news outlets #thisisfine #thoughtsandprayersjaylarson
- Top of front page news here in U.K./Europe. As it should be, sadly.detritus
- yep all over news here.fadein11
- hans_glib0
something is kicking off at oxford circus it seems
- sureshot1
Schoolboy is found guilty of plotting ISIS-inspired terror attack on day of Justin Bieber concert in Cardiff
- chukkaphob4
Terror attack in New York: Footage shows the moment pipe bomb malfunctions and explodes prematurely, injuring ISIS-inspired Bangladeshi, 27, wearing a suicide vest
- live in pain you worm.Gnash
- FAILCygnusZero4
- fudmicrokorg
- He's going in jail for a looooooong timeBennn
- Find him a curb and stomp that bitch, you know the resthelloeatbreathedrive
- he survived?drgs
- the bomb didnt work. it malfunctioned.CygnusZero4
- MondaysRamanisky2
- Lol... get up, you pussy!PonyBoy
- you bring shame to Allah, no virgins, only whores!moldero
- blew his dick off by the looks of things.fadein11
- I hope he gets his ass reamed in prison.dbloc
- I hate cabbies!utopian
- only whores...lolhotroddy
- this guy was bangladeshi. What does he have in common w a sunni arab? Muslim band making a little bit of sense.hotroddy
- Apparently the whole 'Jerusalem as Capital of Israel' thing isn't necessarily sectarian.
Not that it in any way matters. At all.
In any way. Stupid cunts.detritus - He won't be getting any grub at Allah's Snackbar tonight. Suppose it's hard to test the equipment. It's a one use only kind of deal.PhanLo
- no beta testing?hotroddy
- ^hehehehePhanLo
- @hotroddy LOL! this was THE beta test.chukkaphob
- You know what they say.
Experienced suicide bombers are hard to come by.pango - lol pangoGuyFawkes
- omg-1
- Damn, poor dude he's looking off into the future, when he gets out of jail, in 25 years. He'll be 53.robotron3k
- ^ nah, trudeau will right him a cheque soonGnash
- *write
And Khadr was tortured for something he witnessed as a child soldier sold to Al Qaeda by his father.i_monk - perhaps Akayed's story is similarGnash
- @Gnash. if he's a Canadian and if CAD Gov had any direct involvement of him being tortured. then yes. probably.pango
- his team alleged that Canada had conspired with the United States to violate Khadr's rights. I don't think that's trueGnash
- let's hope not.pango
- • Wikileaks Cablegate disclosures in 2010 revealed that the Canadian government had decided against seeking Khadr's repatriation, a decision supported by the USi_monk
- • In April 2009, the Federal Court of Canada ruled again that Khadr's rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms had been violated.i_monk
- https://en.wikipedia…i_monk
- He has no balls... inspired by ISIS.omg
- Khadr himself said the mistreatment occurred in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay before Canadian officials visited him.Gnash
- Canda would still have been able to argue that there was no conspiracyGnash
- Allahutopian
- pinkfloyd0
These terrorists who are making these home made bombs, how destructive can these bombs be? I mean, if they wanted to, can they blow up a bridge? How safe are new yorkers on the bridge because I don't see much security around there.
- http://s3.amazonaws.…Gnash
- ^ homemadeGnash
- Asking for a friend?PeterPancake
- Great, this whole site is on the list now. XDMaaku
- jet fuelApeRobot
- Manchester (IRA):
https://ichef-1.bbci…fadein11 - London Docklands(IRA):
https://cdn-01.belfa…fadein11 - can we not have fbi tracking links, and someone tell me answers in text rather than links?pinkfloyd
- ok, they can be extremely destructive. how do you not know that?fadein11
- yup. they make big boomGnash
- Homemade bombs can be as big as you want — just expect to get a visit from the Feds when you order x hundred kilos of [redacted].detritus
- My worry with bridges — suspension ones anyway — is less explodeysplodey than thermite, which I'm sure would be better, cheaper and easier to deploy.detritus
- samesame train tracks. an old terracotta pot, a few kg of ground aluminium, long magnesium strip to light and there you go — a derailled train.detritus
- I sure hope I'm missing something because I've thought for a long time that sort of shit would be too easy to do and too difficult to stop.detritus
- so we are really defenseless and it can happen anytime time in target areaspinkfloyd
- somebody was saying the other day that 75% of child porn sites on the dark web are set up by the cops as traps for sex-freaks, and that maybeFax_Benson
- most of the bomb-making how-to videos are deliberately shonky.Fax_Benson
- The Anarchist's Cookbook was famously faulty, wasn't it? I'm sure I once read it was a ruse by the CIA to encourage bad actors to mangle themselves.detritus
- i have a copy. the publisher stole the copyright from the author. the author eventually denounced the bookGnash
- https://www.theguard…Gnash
- Ianbolton3
Terrorism not a ‘systemic threat’ to UK says former MI6 head http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-423…
- By Jove, some sense?
Of course it's not systemic —
Brexit, on the otherhand?detritus - Ah yes the voice of reason finally.fadein11
- let's call it seasonal terrorism
Christmas market truck fucks, St. Patrick's Day stabbings, Easter bombings,
Holy Thursday acidizingsted - gov'ts' doing a good job of thwarting attempts, as wellGnash
- By Jove, some sense?
- robotron3k-3
A vehicle plowed into more than a dozen terrified pedestrians in Australia on Thursday, in what police called a "deliberate" and "cowardly" act.
Two people were arrested at the chaotic scene, which was packed with holiday shoppers in Melbourne's central business district.
- Dear The USofA you are ignorrant morons. "Melbourne attack 'not terror related" http://www.bbc.co.uk…Morning_star
- just a wing nut how stopped taking his medsGnash
- who*Gnash
- LOL ... robotard3KKK really checks his sources.Ramanisky2
- Oh so not a soul was terrorized by any of this?! Tough Australians...robotron3k
- "A second person was also arrested after being seen filming the incident, according to Victoria Police. He was found to have three knives in his backpack" hmmmrobotron3k
- 'Terrorism' does not mean 'terrorism' these days. Any time the US media use the word it comes with a whole anti-islamist agenda. The LasVagas mass shooting...Morning_star
- ...was an act of terrorism yet the US media would have never used the word. And as for someone with a couple of knives: have you been to Australia? it's...Morning_star
- ...practically mandatory.Morning_star
- oh robotard!fadein11
- Hehe, the driver was "Asian" so you know what that code word means in the UK...robotron3k
- As a matter of fact I don't. Care to share your racism?Morning_star
- i_monk1
(It hasn't officially been deemed a terrorist attack, but it follows the pattern of recent attacks elsewhere:)
9 dead, 16 injured after pedestrians struck by van in Toronto
- it wasnt a terrorist attack.Al_dizzle
- Sidewalk driving, high-speed rental van mows down 25, nobody felt terror?robotron3k
- lol, robotron, are you michael scott? https://i.pinimg.com…dorf
- and another mental case wanting to make the newsGnash
- Officially not linked to a terror plot. *Whew*. Take your thoughts and prayers back for a refund.i_monk
- Armenian. Usually quiet and mild mannered. Except the Kardashian clan retards of course._niko
- ^ tomorrow is remembrance day for the Armenian genocideGnash
- I'd be surprised if this doesn't eventually become labeled as terrorism.CyBrainX
- sofas0
- oh boy, he's an incel.Gnash
- sub-reddit groups and 4chan are the next Video-games-cause-vi... sound bite.Gnash
- Jesus, can we start a go fund me for some prostitures for these fuckwits?_niko
- something male privilege something rape culture something patriarchy somethinglowimpakt
- I iz sorry but that reporter is scary yo!helloeatbreathedrive
- that elliot rodger was a sick fuck too, jesus.helloeatbreathedrive
- guaranteed this guy was on the spectrum. it's a tough world for themGnash
- shapesalad0
Hidden away in the left wing news is this:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
while the right wing make a sing and dance of it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/…
Eitherway, doesn't make a major splash in the news as no one killed. Just part of London life to expect terrorist attacks...
- Fax_Benson2
Thankfully these attacks often seem to be carried out by dimwits.
I was in the exact same spot on Wednesday in the middle of the day and that junction was 10 deep with tourists.
There's nobody there at 7.30 in the morning - except for cyclists on their way to work.
Parliament is suspended for summer, so there's not even (m)any politicians / Westminster bods in the area.
Seems he drove around the block once, saw the security wall and just drove into it anyway and waited calmly to be arrested.
- glad you're safe, dudeKrassy
- ah, thanks. I was nowhere near it today.Fax_Benson
- Quite a few attacks have happened early in the morning. Either these terrorists stay up all night or get up really early to carry out attacks.shapesalad
- I'm sure dimwit sprung to mind for members of Keith Palmer's or Lee Rigby's family...or people at Borough Market...see_thru
- I seem to remember people taking the piss out of the IRA for being less than effective until they levelled half a town with one bomb.see_thru
- OK, maybe I was a bit glib. Point was that ineptitude seems to have prevented something worse happeningFax_Benson
- Point taken. Sorry, touchy subject.see_thru
- No worriesFax_Benson
- REVEALED: ‘Sudanese immigrant terror attacker’ who drove around London for hours before smashing his car into cyclists outside Parliament leaving 15 hurtshapesalad
- How does a Sudanese get a visa to come work in the UK? On what grounds could they claim asylum status?shapesalad
- You're in Portugal, right? How about you fucking stay there, you fucking dog-whistling cunt.face_melter
- maquito1
A wave of pipe bombs was sent to prominent Democratic politicians, including former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
- Bindegal-1
- https://www.youtube.…Bindegal
- Is this terror?
Should probably go in the war thread?
Hitting back at a military vehicle.Hayzilla - that's fucking shit, and just continues the tit for tat.shapesalad
- chukkaphob-1
Car Bombing Strikes Police Academy, Killing at Least 21 in Colombia
- fuck communists/socialist... and their snake oil ideology that is so attractive to pinheads. many of which lurke on QBNhotroddy
- ?chukkaphob
- I don't follow. Huh?chukkaphob
- google eln colombiahotroddy
- PhanLo0
Whilst Hustling to the mall, to get himself a short set, off duty SAS member helps out in a wee terror attack. Gets the George Cross
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news…