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- fruitsalad1
My neighbours are muslims, Iranian couple, 3 kids, parents don't work, life entirely paid for by UK tax payer - house, schooling, bills, food. For the past 4 years at least they have not worked
They shout and argue really loud at each other in arabic every evening. Never hear them speak any English. When it's the school holidays they all stay up shouting till 2am...
I get home from work and It's like I'm living in the middle east, in some aggressive neighbourhood.
Do I have a problem with them? Yes, I absolutely hate them. I've tried to explain to them numerous times that they are too loud, even taken my iPhone around and played back to them a recording of what I have to endure.
It could just as easily be a native unemployed family. Or immigrants / refugees from anywhere in the world.
The problem I have with them is the complete lack of consideration. Since when do people not have any sense of trying to self-develop? Libraries are free, but instead they sit around watching arabic TV all day. Can hear that too.
Why don't they have any sense of respect for the their new foster country? Any interest in assimilating into it? They seem to just not give a shit.
They make it very hard for me not to view all muslims and arabic immigrants in the same light.
To live next door to a quiet, polite, considerate and self-aware Japanese family... would be heavenly.
- Iranians don't speak Arabic, they speak Persian! Your whole story falls apart!
But srsly, don't you have noise bylaws?i_monk - How do you know the entire household is covered by only tax payer dollars?monospaced
- Assimilation is one of my main issues with economic migration. Literally why the fuck should I welcome you here if you're only here for money?detritus
- And I'm talking about people coming to work, not sponge. I spent my whole childhood disgusted by ex-pat Brits in Spain, so when I grew up..detritus
- ..I left, because at the time I was only interested in British culture and working here. Now I'molder I'd consider living there or Italy.. but as a citizen.detritus
- I'd always be British (ginger, blue white skin - can't ever pretend otherwise), but I'd live in those countries because I love their people and their culturesdetritus
- Mind you, I've always held a high opinion of Iranians - perhaps it's just all the ones who came after the fall of the Shah, who were fairly westernised anyway.detritus
- Also, if your neighbours are refugees, they might not actually be allowed to work, which is a pretty shitty state of affairs for all concerned.detritus
- Christ, I hate reading back my generalisations and broad-brush wishy washy estimations writ stark in black and white.detritus
- I sometimes wish notes had their own notes here...detritus
- wow... so much generalization in fruitsalad's post...pango
- have you ever lived next to an unemployed white family with 10 kids, just saying.fadein11
- I had an iranian gf. she was a bitch. but would never generalize entire nationality of people.pango
- and japanese. she was a bitch too.pango
- lol pango - true words.fadein11
- You go on experience.
How else should you?detritus - Absolutes are troublesome, so we go on generalisations. Generally, generalisations are ok. Not absolutely. But not absolutely not either.detritus
- the important thing is to ensure you have enough data points to make an ok estimation, generally. One family is one data point.detritus
- If there's any one thing I've learned in life, it's that people are cunts, whatever their creed, colour, stock or wit. Everyone's a cunt.detritus
- Just got to work back from that as a baseline.detritus
- Some cunts can be beautiful.detritus
- Ya... one family in millions of people.pango
- I was talking about one family, next door to me, how have I generalised? The remark about a japanese family is based on 1st hand experience of living in japan.fruitsalad
- when I say 'people' I'm still referring to that family next door to me.fruitsalad
- that sentence worked just fine with out the mentioning of Japanese. unless you meant that specific family who lived next to you in japan.pango
- My now ex wife was Japanese, came over and refused to work and would drink and argue all night. Was hell....so I do understand what your saying.mugwart
- Every iranian I've ever met has been kind, thoughtful, hardworking, and generous. Although, they all referred to themselves as Persian, not Iranian.Gnash
- hun. interesting. my ex never referred her self as Persian. well She's not exactly the stereotype iranian too.pango
- ^ Ya, not sure, I never asked why.Gnash
- Iranians don't speak Arabic, they speak Persian! Your whole story falls apart!