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    @ Georges

    Regarding the vortex math thing, I said that I don't like the dudes because they bring all this religion stuff to their discovery, the name of God and whatnot, and I don't get along with those ideals. But I really think their system is on to something, and I would love that someone else would develop on that, without the god shenanigans.

    You say how can we discover new things if the alternatives are shut down, we'll Rodin discovered that, so, I say we can discover things if we want to. It's more difficult without monetary support but nobody is stopping you. The scientific community is not on board with vortex math but some people are, and they are expanding on it right now. They aren't being shut down, they are just being mocked by other people, and ignored by others. But if true amazing findings based on top of their work is eventually used, then they will be accepted, because there will be evidence.

    I agree that alternatives theories should get more credit, but when you are investing money, you want it to have return, and if you just give money to every alternative idea, you'll go bankrupt in no time.

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    • but why can't we have both?
      why can't enlighten like gurdjeff should be disrespected      GeorgesIV
    • btw do you know how many billions of your money is spent on finding ways to kill people? last time I check was 53c to a $GeorgesIV
    • you can, but if something doesn't look right to the most people, then you can't blame them for not following. ThatESKEMA
    • doesn't mean he's wrong. Just that others think he's wrong. Galileo was the only one believing in the round earth..ESKEMA
    • who are most people? this is where I usually start with the C.T and social engineering but I'll give up, the subject is too bigGeorgesIV
    • Eskema this is actually not true, most educated people at that time knew the earth was round,GeorgesIV
    • But just believing in borderline stuff like that, without proofs is the same as religion. It's faith.ESKEMA
    • http://en.wikipedia.…
      GeorgesIV
    • nope, I didn't believe a joule thief could work, so I ordered the pieces and made one for myself, why should I wait for others to confirm what I'm bringing forth, after all I don't care what anyone thinksGeorgesIV
    • confirm what I'm bringing forth, after all I don't care what anyone thinksGeorgesIV
    • well OK, but you get point.ESKEMA
    • do you know the history of most science fields that are accepted now, but where borderline e.g: washing your handsGeorgesIV
    • if there's no one to dispute and disprove those ideas, it's just the same as saying you'll go to hell if you're badGeorgesIV
    • but that's just normal evolution...ESKEMA
    • It has to make sense for someone to get on board of something, I wouldn't want to work on something I didn't believe in (well I kinda do, andESKEMA
    • I don't like it). People will only work on those borderline projects if they are passionate about them. Passioante toESKEMA
    • make them work or passionate to discredit them. And I see npthing wrong with that.ESKEMA
    • *INSERT NOTE 15.5
      ... like, well I kinda do and...      ESKEMA
    • no, I think that's where we differ, people will work on borderline ideas if there's a budget, you should look up a little bit more the scientific dogmas, often just coming out with a different theory will get you black listed,GeorgesIV
    • more the scientific dogmas, often just coming out with a different theory will get you black listed,GeorgesIV
    • I meant that when there is no budget, because of it being borderline, you need passion to work on it..ESKEMA
    • Borderline will never have budget most of the time.ESKEMA
    • except if it has military purpose, then the budget is there... sigh.GeorgesIV
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